Enigma drake U/R ~40$

Modern Duchys

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Dango says... #1

Cards like Faithless Looting, Cathartic Reunion, Wild Guess, and Tormenting Voice could be cheap and effective draw components while also proving useful for throwing some extra unneeded spells into your graveyard to buff your chimeras and drakes.

May 27, 2017 9:36 a.m. Edited.

Duchys says... #2

BloodFetch I know i need better lands, but i don't have the money for them.

calvinwarning Again, I get your point, i just don't feel like playing them. But thanks anyway

May 27, 2017 9:56 a.m. Edited.

Wel5 says... #3

extremly solid for budget! very nice deck and fun to play, just remove jace, he is just a place holder and remove rift bolt and add 2x Bedlam Reveler - this card is absolutely insane with this deck strategy, i know it, because i play this idea too

May 28, 2017 3:18 a.m.

Duchys says... #4

Wel5 Thanks for the advice, I'll definitely replace the Jace, Unraveler of Secrets and Rift Bolt, but I'm not adding the Bedlam Reveler, since I have played that card in before and it was just a dead card for a long time.

May 28, 2017 6:44 a.m.

Feltrix says... #5

I like the deck a lot. Actually, the main thing I'd change is that you can replace Evolving Wilds with Mountains or Islands. Swift water Cliffs filter the mana enough.

May 28, 2017 3:09 p.m.

Duchys says... #6

Feltrix Thanks for the suggestion, but i feel like the mana base is working good enough, the Evolving Wilds is a great card to get through your lands quicker so you have lesser chance of drawing them, so I'm definitely keeping Evolving Wilds till i get more money so I can afford better fetch lands.

May 28, 2017 3:22 p.m.

zingzang says... #7

+1, really nice idea for the deck, but I got some suggestions. Some are more budget, some are not. Up to you, which one you include and which not.

  1. Manamorphose! It gives you mana fixing and draws you a card, so free cycling basically.

  2. If you play Mana Leak and a lot of instant/sorcery, you could enjoy a Baral, Chief of Compliance

  3. Censor would do a really good job. If you don't counter anything, just cycle it and it's still in your graveyard.

  4. And of course Faithless Looting

May 29, 2017 10:32 a.m.

Duchys says... #8

Thanks for suggestions zingzang,1. I would definitely play Manamorphose and Baral, Chief of Compliance, but they are quite out of my budget, but I'll keep them in mind if I'll want to invest more money in the deck.

  1. I feel there are better counterspells than Censor, the cycling is really nice, but the counterspell aspect of the card feels bad imo.

  2. Faithless Looting I still don't feel the discard mechanic but I'll keep it in maybeboard.

May 29, 2017 10:46 a.m.

o3Hampus says... #9

With how much card draw and and removal that you have I'm looking at logic knot being a very good card in your sideboard (cutting 2 of your 3 mana counters for it) also I suggest young pyromancer in the spot of2 spell heart chimeras and instead of cryptic serpent and cutting down on a gutter snipe or enigma drake and I definetly see the nombo with logic knot but your not really looking to 50 your opponent in the air if you can chip away you can just burn them out or attrition them out slowly but surely. ( I wouldn't play logic knot unless I had fetches Ik you are keeping this budget but if you find yourself cracking some packs of mm17 rather it be for draft or for fun if you get a few tarns it could help the deck a lot) but other than that seems like you got it down I like the deck. Well actually it also wouldn't hurt to throw manamorphoses in here they don't do all that much but they draw and put cards in you graveyard that's never a bad thing with a deck like this and I would slide that have out to something else even if its just a spell pierce or something along that line and with goyf and counters company being big spell pierce feels right

May 30, 2017 3:04 a.m.

Duchys says... #10

Thanks for the suggestions o3Hampus,

  1. I might replace Cryptic Serpent with Young Pyromancer

  2. I'm definitely not cutting the Spellheart Chimera since it is the theme of the deck.

  3. Manamorphose is definitely great in this deck, unfortunately its out of my budget.

  4. I don't even have budget for draft, so grabbing myself a mm17 is pretty hard, but I get your point.

  5. I don't feel like Logic Knot is good for this deck in any way, since i wanna have my graveyard filled up, and I don't have many creatures in the deck, so delving them would be pretty hard.

May 30, 2017 12:40 p.m.

o3Hampus says... #11

Yeah I didn't actually check the price on manamorphose but its like 8 so yeah I see that but pyro will he very good will help you against aggro game one and just board it when you bring in your clasms and don't cut the chimera dump the made he seems underpowered in a format filled with cheap spells

May 30, 2017 11:59 p.m.

o3Hampus says... #12

Was saying the jace it cut it out for some reason

May 31, 2017 midnight

Duchys says... #13

o3Hampus thanks for the additional info, I'll probably give the Cryptic Serpent few more games, and then I'll try the Young Pyromancer (or I'll switch him for the Guttersnipe). And I'll definitely cut the Jace, Unraveler of Secrets when I'll go play some more competitive games.

May 31, 2017 11:48 a.m.

Darsul says... #14

Hello Duchys,

Where to start... It would help with suggestions if you let us know a budget range with that out of mind lets start;

First, I would say Epic Experiment > Steam Augury

Stubborn Denial > Mana Leak, Mana Leak is great card and stronger T2 but, as a whole for your deck SD is better

Serum Visions or Faithless Looting > Thought Scour, TS runs the risk of dumping your creatures and no Flash back cards, thought scour is little more then a cantrip, their are way better cantrips.

In your creature department, you have on Turn 3 you want to cast.... Enigma Drake and Spellheart Chimera and Guttersnipe? Why are you running a play set of each? Doing so open you up to hand where your staring at 3 lands and 4 creatures, and you can't play a card till turn 3. I think this is why faster aggro are giving you problems (yes you may not always or ever see that opening hand but, if even 2 of those creature are in you opening hand it's not good), this is why people are saying add someone like Monastery Swiftspear or Delver of Secrets  Flip even Blistercoil Weird, then you could have one of those guys turn one, turn two is spent setting up you turn three by Serum Visions or Faithless Looting even Thought Scour and your turn three Enigma Drake or Spellheart Chimera. In short, your curve doesn't feel right with play set of each Enigma Drake, Spellheart Chimera and Guttersnipe.

Blue is best known for Counterspell and draw power that said it lesser known/acknowledged power is its power to add evasions to its attackers. Cards like Slip Through Space and Artful Dodge would go along way. Mizzium Skin is also, a good addition.

And as last note cards like Titan's Strength and Built to Smash would have a lot value here too.

Hope was I was of some help,GL HF

May 31, 2017 12:27 p.m.

Duchys says... #15

Thanks for the suggestions Darsul,

  1. I'm on really tight budget, I don't wanna spend more than 1$ for one card.

  2. I wasn't sure about Epic Experiment, but I'll give it a try.

  3. Stubborn Denial, Really good advice but I'm not sure about the need of creature with power 4 or greater, since i might get a bad hand or something goes wrong and I'll have a easily counterable counter spell, so I'll rather keep the Mana Leak in the list(although I might replace the Negate/Dissolve with this.

  4. Serum Visions is out of my budget, and i feel like Thought Scour is much better than Faithless Looting imo.

  5. I am pretty filled on the 3 drops so I'll probably swap Guttersnipe with a cheaper card, as for example Young Pyromancer.

  6. I really don't cards like Slip Through Space since just a small amount of people run flyers so my Enigma Drake and Spellheart Chimera are often going through with the damage. Not sure about the hexproof but I'll keep that in mind if i meet more of creature removal decks.

  7. About the Titan's Strength and Built to Smash. I don't like having dead cards in my hand and since I don't play much creatures it wouldn't get used too often.

Thanks again for the long post of suggestions.

May 31, 2017 12:54 p.m. Edited.

Darsul says... #16

Man if you can, you really should bite the bullet on the Serum Visions 8$ for a play set might, find better on e-bay. That said and if you still need to pass on them next question, why do you need Thought Scour? Plan old Shock might be better. From my point of view TS offers you little more then a cantrip. If you target your self with the mill you have a more likely chance to hit a non-Instance//Sorcery then to hit one and tossing away cards your tying to run into, weather that be your land drop for the turn or the card that could have won you the game. All I'm getting at is Thought Scour could come out its not helping and you stop seening every one say change it out for Faithless Looting 8).

June 1, 2017 1:42 a.m.

o3Hampus says... #17

Darsul he is looking to dump cards into his yard to turn on his drakes and chimeras so therefore thought score is better

June 1, 2017 4:11 a.m.

Duchys says... #18

Darsul I get your point, but as o3Hampus said I am trying to make my graveyard as big as possible without discarding cards from my hand (since i don't like that mechanic). But thanks for your suggestion anyway.

June 1, 2017 8:49 a.m.

Feltrix says... #19

You get a lot more utility and control over what's in your hand and what's in your graveyard with Faithless Looting than with Thought Scour. If you're unsure, just playtest it the with Faithless Looting. If you don't like it, you can always switch it back.

June 1, 2017 9:01 a.m.

Dango says... #20

Honestly I'm in total agreement with Feltrix. That's the point I tried to get across before by suggesting Faithless Looting. You're making your graveyard just as big by discarding the cards and you get to choose what goes into the graveyard rather than blindly putting the top two cards of your library into your graveyard. You're risking dumping a land, creature, or planeswalker into your graveyard with Thought Scour and none of those are going to help you. I myself don't know how else to help you with your deck if your dismissive to suggestions simply because you "don't feel like playing them", and that's fine. Your opinion is your own, and this is your deck so I'm not trying to tell you what to do with it, but a discard mechanic would prove to be extremely useful in a deck like this and all people are saying is that you should at least give it some playtesting.

June 1, 2017 9:29 a.m.

Darsul says... #21

@ calvinwarning and Feltrix,

Duchys said he would put in his maybe board and I would take that to mean he's testing it(Faithless Looting). Also, keep in mind he's running a 4 of Izzet Charm so he does have a FL if his hand is flooding with lands.

@o3Hampus

I got that, what I'm getting at was the odds//math don't add up. There's a greater for the deck to mill a land, creature or planeswalker then, a Instance//Sorcery. Even if the deck does go against the odds, its a net loss of damage if it hits Lightning Bolt, as Lightning Bolt + Thought Scour only adds 2 power too an Enigma Drake and Spellheart Chimera and it's a wash if it hits Magma Jet or Electrolyze as either plus the TS only add 2 power. Shock would deal 2 damage plus build the Drake and Chimera. The value is not there for Thought Scour as the deck sits. The deck would need to gain more Instance//Sorcery and/or have flash back or aftermath cards or delve cards for TS to be of value. Think Twice holds more value.

June 1, 2017 10:25 a.m.

Duchys says... #22

Really appreciate the comments Feltrix, calvinwarning, Darsul.

  1. I haven't yet played the deck in current state since i didn't have the opportunity to play so my card testing is a bit frozen atm.

  2. Really thanks for the comment Darsul, the in-depth "calculation" makes me fell like Faithless Looting is a lot better than Thought Scour, even tho i don't like losing the one card.

  3. If you have any similar card to Faithless Looting but in instant variant I would highly appreciate the suggestion, since I feel that playing instants is much better than sorceries since after playing it i still have the mana open for Mana Leak or some other responsive spell.

  4. I have played the Think Twice in this deck before I put in the Thought Scour and it felt a lot worse than it.

  5. To Darsul comment about Epic Experiment before. My friend who played similar deck before said he tried to play that card but it being sorcery and hitting probably like 2/3 cards makes it worse than Steam Augury so I'll keep that card off the testing list for now.

I hope I didn't miss anything out, and thanks again for your comments.

June 1, 2017 12:39 p.m.

Darsul says... #23

Desperate Ravings is the closes you can get any more at instant speed for the Faithless Looting but, all the same draw backs as Thought Scour.

I need to head to work but, ill give ya my thoughts on Epic Experiment vs Steam Augury when i get home.

June 1, 2017 2:29 p.m.

Duchys says... #24

Darsul thanks for pointing out the Desperate Ravings, but as you said it wouldn't help me at all. so I'll give the Faithless Looting a try.

And i would appreciate your thoughts on the Epic Experiment vs Steam Augury. thanks again.

June 1, 2017 3:28 p.m.

o3Hampus says... #25

I definetly see that but this is at heart a blue red spells deck and I feel losing that card from faithless looting instead of just can tripping is detrimental to the game plan its not like this is storm you can't afford that one card to be lost in the early game it puts you at a strict disadvantage

June 1, 2017 7:04 p.m.

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