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EPIC TROLLING with Sunforger

Commander / EDH Combo RGW (Naya) Theme/Gimmick

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Before we begin, be sure to check out the previous three installments in this series!

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Ladies, Gentlemen, and silly pancakes, you've waited long enough. It may not be quite as epic. It may not be quite as absolutely core-game shattering, but there's really only so much that can be done. Regardless of such, I think that you'll find the end result nevertheless a worthwhile investment of your time!

By the way, I've found that you can get a pretty good deal on a mop if you buy on amazon. A decent one will run you about $20. It really comes in handy after you're knee-deep in your own drool from starring star-struck at this decklist in awe and amazement, questioning reality, and considering the ramifications of stuffing a whole six pounds of pancake mix into your bellybutton just to see if any will eventually squirt out of your butthole.

At the sacrifice of some absolutely broken mechanical meltdowns that are the essence of previous installments in this series, this is actually a deck that you can build in real life and expect that it will somewhat perform. This isn't a deck that will only work 1% of the time. Instead, this is actually the first installment into the series that I would recommend that you actually consider building and having a blast playing with.

Ingredients for this deck:

  1. Six pounds of pancake mix.
  2. A deep bellybutton.
  3. About $250-300 to buy the deck.
  4. Friends (sometimes for sale on tinder, though that's often times a ruthless mixture of illegal and expensive). Caution: You will lose these friends, so purchase responsibly.
  5. Some kittens. Your opponents will sometimes need something to snuggle up with to make them feel better when you lock them completely out of the game forever.

You might be wondering why I chose Jacques le Vert as the commander for this deck. It's because of how accurately his face seems to resemble my opponents' faces. That's all. Also, DAYUM! A 0/3 BIRDS OF PARADISE?!?!?!?!? GET REKT YOU SCRUB WHOSE BELLYBUTTON PROBABLY LACKS CIRCUMFERENCE! PFFT..

So you're probably asking, "Well, just how broken can Sunforger really be?" Well, my circumference-challenged friend, let me enlighten you.

Reducing the cost of equipping it down to just zero mana is not only easy, it's completely broken. Use the following cards to do so.

Now the Puresteel Paladin is much sexier because if you also have Leonin Shikari, you can equip Sunforger at instant speed for zero mana. Now we're cooking!

So you can pull any 4-drop instant white or red instant spell from your deck and cast it for free for just ... who cares? Well, I haven't shown you the warm chocolately core of this combo yet.

Oh yeah boys and girls. This is where it starts gettin LEGIT! Now, whenever you sunforger for something, it is put right back into your deck for later, and it essentially only costs you two mana to do it!

Let's look at some of the most broken cards that are candidates for this effect.

This will be somewhat the core of the deck. We can use these tools for all sorts of removal and tutoring to set up our pieces.

Now once you have these pieces going, it would be polite if you offered your opponents some toilet paper. They're starting to get scared. They know what's coming, remembering your devilish trolly ways. Whenever you want, do the following (requires at least to accomplish).

  • Spend to Unattach Sunforger to cast Seething Song from your library. You have five red mana. Seething Song goes back into your library.
  • Equip Sunforger to something, then unattach it again (you'll need one more ) to cast Manamorphose from your library. Produce , then draw a card. You have .
  • After Manamorphose goes back into your deck, cast it again (spending , going down to ), and then manamorphose produces which brings you up to . Do it again and you'll have . Do it one more time and you'll have .
  • Now spend a red and a white to cast Seething Song again.
  • You can keep following this pattern, producing lots of mana of all three of your colors, drawing lots of cards and such. Eventually you will have plenty of mana to do whatever you want with and your whole deck in your hand.
  • Cast Grapeshot if you want to be boring, but I know you'll make the right choice and continue trolling.

At this point, the world is your oyster. You can play Wild Mongrel or Tireless Tribe to put all of the cards in your hand back into your deck because of Wheel of Sun and Moon. This lets you keep the fun rolling.

Eventually, you'll want to soil your opponents pants with Possessed Portal. This is of course the troll win-condition of choice for this deck. This, along with some other shenanigans will pretty much lock our opponents out of the game. It should also be noted that while Possessed Portal is in play, we no longer have to draw cards from Manamorphose, so we can just go ahead and produce literally infinite mana with Seething Song and Manamorphose without going though the motions of picking up our deck, and putting it back repeatedly.

Ready to dreamcrush them? Here's how we do it! It might be appropriate to politely tell your opponents that they can relax. They won't be doing much for the rest of the game.

  • First, cast Fires of Yavimaya, Mirror Gallery, Blade of Selves, Shisato, Whispering Hunter , Orochi Hatchery, and Vedalken Orrery.
  • Equip Blade of Selves to Shisato, Whispering Hunter .
  • If your opponents have any blockers, make sure to destroy them using your sunforger with Warleader's Helix , using Bonds of Mortality where needed, and Chaos Warp as well if needed. Just clear all of that blocking shit out of the way... we got a weak ass 2/2 that needs to get its scrony ass through.
  • If your opponent tries to destroy something before this goes any further, just sunforger to Boros Charm looking at the opponent dead into the windows of their soul, saying "BIIIIIIIIIIIIITCH!"
  • With Mirror Gallery helping you avoid the legend rule, go ahead and attack your opponents with your myraid'd Shisato, forcing them to skip their untap step, but don't be a dick. Give them their 2 life back by using sunforger to cast Hope Charm on each of your opponents. We don't want this process to kill them.
  • Before you end your turn, go ahead and cast either Rith's Charm or Advent of the Wurm infinitely to produce infinite creature tokens, then play Crypolith Rite. They all have haste from Fires of Yavimaya, so they can tap for mana already. You have access to infinite mana during your opponent's turns now with much less effort.
  • On your opponents' upkeep, after they've already skipped their untap step, go ahead and use sunforger and your infinite mana to cast Silence, Turf Wound , and Moment of Silence . Now your opponent will be skipping his or her untap step, skipping his or her regular card draw for the turn, won't be able to cast spells, won't be able to attack, and won't be able to play lands. My guess is he/she will probably just pass turn.
  • Before your next turn, make sure to make a snake token with Orochi Hatchery to pay the upkeep cost on Shisato, Whispering Hunter .

Your opponents might think that they're clever by trying to outwit your evilness. If they try to cast a spell in response to your Silence, just sunforger at instant speed for Reiterate targeting your Silence. Chances are, they won't have a second response. BUT IF THEY DO, FEAR NOT! For we have come prepared for this. Use sunforger to cast Eladamri's Call to put Dualcaster Mage into our hand, then flash it in copying Silence. At this point, if they had ANOTHER response, well they probably would have responded to your Eladamri's Call, rending you a total scrub.

--- EDIT! --- epnc made a good point. I was trying to defeat a counterspell against Silence, but they could have something else that silence isn't really going to stop because it's already on the stack. I have added Lapse of Certainty , which is just a really disgusting card with Sunforger anyway. Thanks enpc! I'm also taking his suggestion for Nevermore to name Krosan Grip. Good call.

Eventually, as your opponents aren't able to do anything, each end-step will force them to sacrifice something from their hand or field from Possessed Portal until they have nothing left. You will never run out of resources, since you've created infinite tokens. Nothing says that you have to stop trolling them at this point though. While they've got nothing on field, nothing in hand, and no way to actually do anything else anymore at all, you can take infinite turns by putting Platinum Angel into play and using sunforger to cast Final Fortune indefinitely. Because of Possessed Portal, you'll never deck yourself out. Just keep going, staying up all night while your friends have now gone to sleep and left you to your solitairing nonsense.

Ready to win? Well there are many ways to do it in style. Here's a few.

  • Use Karn, Silver Golem to turn your sunforger into a creature, then use Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker to put a copy of it onto the battlefield. Use Vitu-Ghazi Guildmage to populate the token infinitely, and attack your opponent with infinite hasting sunforgers.
  • Play Suture Priest and then play Hunted Lammasu giving someone a token and making them lose 1 life. Use sunforger to cast Chaos Warp on your own Hunted Lammasu . Use sunforger to cast Eladamri's Call to get it back, then play it again and rinse and repeat for infinite Suture Priest triggers to kill your opponents; in a way, killing them with kindness.
  • Use the infinite token sunforgers discussed in the first win-condition listed above and instead attach them all to Kemba, Kha Regent, and then you can get infinite kittens to kill your opponent with. It'll be great irony to go along with the kittens they're currently snuggling with IRL to cope with what's happening. With any luck, you could get them into therapy.

Wanna save your Sunforger without using Boros Charm?

This allows us to get around some really nasty removal spells. Unfortunately, Krosan Grip still hurts us a lot though. That's why I regularly burn Krosan Grips in my free time for leisure.

If you manage to get Cryptolith Rite early, you can actually use sunforger not supported by the broken cost reductions to just produce three tokens at a time with Rith's Charm until you get 6 tokens (assuming I suppose that you at least have Wheel of Sun and Moon out), then tap for 6 mana, using three of it to equip sunforger, and two of it to unattach and cast Roar of the Kha (untapping all your creatures) as an alternate route to producing infinite mana. From there, you can draw your whole deck and get all the pieces going.

Essentially, the rest of this deck, in an attempt to keep it slightly more consistent than than other EPIC TROLLING decks, and generally tries to maintain a degree of resilience overall. It's not trying to be competitive, but this is an attempt to at least make an EPIC TROLLING deck playable, even though it's not quite as epic as the others.

Anyway, I hope you liked it and can afford that mop.

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This deck is Commander / EDH legal.
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3 - 0 Mythic Rares

39 - 0 Rares

24 - 0 Uncommons

14 - 0 Commons
Cards 100
Avg. CMC 2.58
Tokens Cat 2/2 W, Centaur 3/3 G, Copy Clone, Horror 4/4 B, Kor Soldier 1/1 W, Saproling 1/1 G, Snake 1/1 G, Stoneforged Blade, Wurm 5/5 G w/ Trample
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