Esper Absolute Control FNM (Old Standard)
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franciscovalencia919 says... #2
i playtested it and i noticed that you have six cards that win which is 1 aetherling 2 jaces and 3 nephalia drownyards. if i were you i may remove the opportunity for another aetherling or another jace
August 13, 2013 5:36 a.m.
I think I'm probably going to switch out the Opportunity for Sphinx's Revelation if I go into Esper so I'm leaving it in for the moment to compare it to Sphinx. What do people think about this deck moving towards Esper?
August 14, 2013 4:55 p.m.
may or may not be what your looking for but if you want more instant, Quicken could be a good answer.
August 14, 2013 5:02 p.m.
tomorsomthing says... #5
If you go to esper, I find Silence to be one of the best cards for control decks to have. there are just so many uses for it, trying to resolve that AEtherling in a control matchup? cast Silence first! Need an extra turn to build up that Sphinx's Revelation (another amazing card you'll have access to with esper)? Silence , and kill any advances your opponent can make during that turn. I expect to see it in many many esper decks very soon.
August 14, 2013 5:40 p.m.
The problem I have with Silence is that Silence does nothing by itself. It's nice when I'm resolving something big but what if because I run Silence instead of some removal or a counter, I don't have enough removal or counters? It will just stay dead in my hand until I try to resolve something big. Silence certainly wouldn't be one of my reasons for going Esper. It's a nice thought but it just doesn't do enough.
For the same reason, I don't want Quicken - again it does nothing by itself and I have no sorceries I want to Quicken so it wouldn't work in this deck at all.
August 15, 2013 4:52 a.m.
On the other hand, Sphinx's Revelation is already one of my main reasons for considering moving into Esper.
August 15, 2013 5:26 a.m.
If you have a problem with Cavern of Souls then try sideboarding an Encroaching Wastes
August 16, 2013 9:49 a.m.
tomorsomthing says... #9
Esper will also give you access to cards like Detention Sphere , Oblivion Ring , Azorius Charm , Supreme Verdict , and Render Silent .
August 16, 2013 1:04 p.m.
@senken12: I don't really see Cavern of Souls that much anymore. If it becomes big again (at least until it rotates out) I'll sideboard Encroaching Wastes .
@tomorsomthing: Yeah I think I'm going to move to Esper.
August 16, 2013 4:30 p.m.
tomorsomthing says... #11
Keep AEtherling in, it'll be hard to win without him. While it is technically possible to win by attacking with Restoration Angel , but you'll find it tough to do so without other threats.
August 16, 2013 10:21 p.m.
I still have all my mill in - Nephalia Drownyard and Jace, Memory Adept . I think that and the Restoration Angel /Snapcaster Mage beatdown will be enough win conditions. Plus I have a lot of fairly expensive cards in now and I don't want too many dead draws. I'll try without AEtherling for the moment and if I have difficulty winning, I'll add it back in.
August 17, 2013 7 a.m.
jonathanmc says... #14
If you're running esper, don't you think Psychic Strike will be better than Dissipate ? It helps your milling a bit, while still serves as a good counter.
August 17, 2013 7:23 a.m.
Psychic Strike is nice but it's not as good against flashback or against things like Unburial Rites or other graveyard-based effects. I don't think the two card mill is worth sacrificing all the advantages of Dissipate . If Dissipate rotates out and nothing better rotates in, I'll certainly use Psychic Strike though.
August 17, 2013 7:41 a.m.
HelixSnapHelix says... #18
You should mainboard Ghost Quarter as at least a one of so you're at least somewhat ready for a cavern in play, with maybe one or two in sideboard depending how much you hate it.
August 23, 2013 3:02 a.m.
I really don't like Ghost Quarter as a card. I'd be much more likely to play Encroaching Wastes but right now I don't see Cavern of Souls very much in my meta so if it becomes big again, I'll include options to fight it.
August 23, 2013 3:23 a.m.
SlumberingDragon says... #20
You might need one of these cards to fight off Sliver decks, though.
August 23, 2013 11:12 a.m.
With Mutavault you mean? I've had a chance to test it against a few sliver decks and my instant-speed removal was enough to hold them off.
August 23, 2013 12:06 p.m.
SlumberingDragon says... #22
The sliver decks in my meta have been playing cavern, door of destinies, and mutavault. Maybe not all at once, but in some combination.
August 23, 2013 12:13 p.m.
Well land destruction doesn't deal with Door of Destinies (Detention Sphere should do fine) and I haven't seen all that many Caverns. I guess I'll see.
Izzet says... #1
My main concern is that having more land means less removal/counters which means this deck can't survive. So far, this amount of land has been working for me but thanks, I will certainly consider adding more land if I start to have problems.
August 13, 2013 3:06 a.m.