Thanks for the upvote!
I actually just made this deck last night, so far I've only played 2 games with it, the matchups were living end (2-1) and GB Snake (2-0) I'll make a log for this deck for matchups and what not.
March 30, 2017 9:19 p.m.
Yahenni's Expertise might be worth trying out - good sweeper, and it allows you to chain off something like Night's Whisper
March 31, 2017 1:37 p.m.
I personally would go with Gideon, Champion of Justiceenter link description here over Ob nixilis.
March 31, 2017 6:14 p.m.
Isntitizzet says... #6
yeah don't listen to that guy, champ of justice is trash. Play gideon jura if anything, but ob nix is good and fine too. Still, if you want to be more competitive I'd add Liliana of the veil. So goood against combo and just a useful card to have.
April 2, 2017 5:44 p.m.
Isntitizzet says... #7
Also you have a lot of life loss, maybe something like kitchen finks needs to come in, or play more collective brutality.
April 2, 2017 5:45 p.m.
I agree with you that Lilli and Finks/collective would be good, but what comes out? I could definitely see cutting a souls and maybe elspeth for 2 lillis, but I'm unsure for the finks/collective, maybe cutting ob nix for another gideon and a lilli?
April 2, 2017 6:07 p.m. Edited.
pycckuu_brady says... #9
Have you considered Nyx Fleece Ram? I run a very similar deck and use that to offset any life lost, and also as a great blocker till I can end the game.
April 5, 2017 1:39 a.m.
While the ram seems like an interesting idea, it serves the same purpose as something like Wall of Omens, which while I do like the idea, puts it at odds with the other cards I play, such as Collective Brutality and Night's Whisper. The other main issue is that while the ram may offset lifeloss and can block, it doesn't affect the board state. Personally, I'd just run another Timely Reinforcements in the sideboard if I really needed it, but that's just me.
April 5, 2017 2:19 a.m.
If you are talking about the Finishers, there are definitely some great options you could choose from to budget this build, some of your options are Sorin, Solemn Visitor, Gideon Jura, Blood Baron of Vizkopa, Divinity of Pride etc. The removal suite really is what it is, and there's just not much change you can make there. The manabase could work without the Marsh Flats, and instead play something like Isolated Chapel. As for the discard suite, the closest you can get is Castigate or Blackmail, but I'd highly advise against it since you really want to cast a discard spell turn 1.
April 10, 2017 1:27 p.m.
SaSSolino8 says... #13
Where the art under "Feedback and Miscellaneous" from?
December 22, 2017 3:21 a.m.
The art is from the card Merciless Eviction
December 22, 2017 1 p.m.
iBleedPunk says... #16
I hate posting useless comments but am I the only one that sees this decks upvote counter is at -1?
April 15, 2018 6:18 p.m.
Negative votes are the result of fake users upvoting the deck.
April 15, 2018 10:48 p.m.
Hey quick question for you, how are the three different Gideon's doing for you over all with the whole change on the legend rule ECT. I have a black white control deck that I think has the right idea wrong cards it plays like tokens in the fact I make them but not as big in numbers as regular tokens. And uses super friends to win... But it just seems like wrong cards right idea. It also plays bitterblossom which sounds like half my issue ... Take too much damage and sometimes it die from it. I feel like between that and sorin solemn visitor it's not a working combo. But I play cards like big and little Elspeth and Lilly. But I have no real threat other than tokens with Elspeth and the single bane Slayer ... Thoughts suggestions??
June 30, 2018 7:57 p.m.
Back when I was making this deck, we still had the planeswalker legend rule, and it basically made me test a variety of walkers, and see what worked best. In my experience, Gideons have worked the best by far, especially since the new ruling. The reason for that is they don't really need any setup or protection, as they all basically protect themselves, and can all function as finishers.
As for your deck, I used to play Phyrexian Arena in this deck as a consistent draw engine, but it killed me a lot more than I wanted it to. This is what made me switch to Night's Whisper. I think Bitterblossom is great in the tokens deck, but just like arena, it puts a clock on your head the turn you play it, something I'd avoid in a non-aggressive deck.
If anything, I'd play the Gideon package since it's so effective, and they all compliment each other. If you want other walker suggestions, Ob Nixilis Reignited and Sorin, Grim Nemesis are both powerful walkers and decently cheap cash-wise. I've found that both Liliana of the Veil and Liliana, the Last Hope work decently, although one makes you discard cards which is kind of a non-bo in control, but I find it's still very useful.
Honestly, the other Sorins are great when you have a board but pretty garbo in a control deck like mine.
If you want any other tips/suggestions let me know, and if you've got a list I'd be interested in seeing it.
June 30, 2018 9:31 p.m. Edited.
sergiodelrio says... #20
Some real fresh air in this deck, I like it! +1
Possible, minor tweak ideas:
Bojuka Bog: Imho one of the best, and the most underrated GY exilers. I could see you exchange 2x RIP in the SB for this to reduce redundancy. Also opens an option to side out 2 lands and thus keep 2 more spells. I could even see them maindeck, as this is a midrange deck and Jund has the Ooze for that purpose. But that's up to your judgement, of course.
Village Rites: 1 copy to replace 1 Whisper. You have tokens and other creatures that might leave the battlefield for some reason. Less life loss in the deck, low opportunity cost as a 1-of, 1 mana instant.
July 3, 2020 5:03 a.m. Edited.
Flooremoji says... #21
Even though I don't particularly like this archetype, I do like detailed match reports :D
July 8, 2020 1:05 a.m.
Jackfrost23 says... #22
I would really love it if you could give me some feedback on my (budget) devotion deck. Budget Devotion: Now With A White Splash!. Thanks in advance!
October 15, 2020 11:34 a.m.
Jackfrost23 says... #23
Another cool BW deck i made. Thran: The Untold Saga Of Modern's Destruction.
dpac says... #1
Hey, how is this deck working out for you?
March 30, 2017 7:48 p.m.