Everybody Loves Hypnotoad - The Gitrog [[Primer]]

Commander / EDH Ender666666

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Ender666666 says... #1

Hey Catgroove, thanks for the support and comment.

I think I've gone back and forth on Death Cloud 4 or 5 times already. It just seems I never want it when I draw it, and when I dredge it I have no way of getting it back. What makes you think it's worth keeping?

I have also considered adding Seedborn Muse but am not sure if I really need her. Thoughts?

If you like the deck, please don't forget to upvote. Lord Hypnotoad demands it.

June 2, 2016 9 p.m.

Catgroove says... #2

As strange as it may sound, with your build of this I have used Death Cloud as a jumping off point for us. It's another discard engine that helps get key cards in grave whenever we don't have something else, while at the same time crippling opponents and making it safer to combo off. Like people have said above, I feel like Seedborn Muse is a great workaround to some stack effects, but really comes into her own when paired with Winding Canyons. As of now without Winding Canyons she is just not too impactful with your low density of cards that would benefit from the untaps.

June 2, 2016 10:17 p.m.

Spyderred says... #3

First things first, love your deck!!! Brilliant!

Now, correct me if I am wrong, but... how exactly does the Necrotic Ooze + in the graveyard ->Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord + Devoted Druid and Quillspike, works?

Because what I get is, you make Necrotic Ooze combo alone the activated abilities of Devoted Druid and Quillspike than "go for the win" with Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord's sacrifice ability... however, doesn't Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord's ability says "another creature"? The way I imagined the combo would go by sacrificing Necrotic Ooze itself, after getting big enough to sacrifice itself for the sake of the Oh Great Hipnotoad. But it can't sacrifice itself with Jarad's ability, right? Or am I missing something?

June 4, 2016 12:48 a.m.

Ender666666 says... #4

No, you are correct. I used inaccurate verbiage in the write up. I'll have will have to fix it. Thanks

June 4, 2016 8:10 a.m.

Catgroove says... #5

Congratulations on hitting triple digits! In testing, I've been finding that I tend to lack enough green mana as strange as that may sound. IDK if it's just my bad luck, but I wanted to see if anyone else has been having this problem. Aside from that, thoughts on Survival of the Fittest? I feel like self discard is such a great aspect of the deck, and Survival will let us do that while tutoring key cards. Lastly, Life from the Loam with the Dark Depths + Thespian's Stage combo is just stupid good. Sadly though, I'm normally only able to make 3 tokens before everyone is dead. :(

June 7, 2016 3:25 p.m.

Ender666666 says... #6

Thanks! Triple Digits for a LOOOOOOOOOOONG time now. heh.

Survival is possible, I just didn't really give it too much thought because creatures never felt like my priority, and enchantment's are hard to recur.. But I do like the idea, so I'll play around with it and see what's what.

As far as , I don't usually have that trouble, it's just that feels over represented due to Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth. I'm not comfortable cutting any more swamps, so unless I cut utility lands, It's hard to up the sources. Perhaps a Gaea's Cradle might do SOMETHING.. I could try that I suppose.

Finally, what do you mean about that combo? You can't have more than 1 Marit Lage token at a time, since it's legendary... I hope you didn't miss that. Maybe I misunderstand.

June 7, 2016 7:06 p.m.

Ender666666 says... #7

Speaking of Marit Lage, My custom illustrated token now will have to play double duty between this and Huuuuuge Tracts of Land, my / Combo Lands Legacy deck. It was commissioned to Richard Kane Ferguson, and is on the back of a Boomerang Artists' Proof.

Behold!

Marit Lage

June 7, 2016 7:19 p.m. Edited.

Catgroove says... #8

First off, great art. Not going to gush any more then that or I'd be here for a paragraph. I know they are legendary, but I've somehow decided it's a good use of resources to just make as many of them as possible in order to go that extra mile and show the position I'm in to the table. Something about not even caring about sacking my first/second Flying Spaghetti Monster feels really good. I wouldn't cut down on any swamps, even with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth as it makes the fetches less useful when brought back. IDK about Gaea's Cradle as I've noticed we will normally not have many creatures on board (outside of Worm Harvest and Zombie Infestation) but it's probably worth it say over Archaeological Dig. Haven't found Arch Dig to be that impressive. I would really give Survival a go. We really only need to get it off one/two times before we can get in a position to combo off with some dredges and or combo monsters.

June 7, 2016 11:31 p.m.

Catgroove says... #9

I should have been clearer when talking about the Dark Depths bit in my first post.

June 7, 2016 11:34 p.m.

Ender666666 says... #10

Makes sense. Archaeological Dig is new and in testing, so may eventually be cut

June 7, 2016 11:45 p.m.

Ender666666 says... #11

Does anyone have any feedback on the Primer? Anything from the content to the design elements, to even lame attempts at humour?

June 11, 2016 8:01 p.m.

Catgroove says... #13

Last time reading it, couple days ago, the primer looked good. Will go over it again to check though. While I don't agree with all the choices in The_Dragonmaster's version of the deck, as I believe this deck works best as combo, I have been playing around with Avenger of Zendikar and found it to be a decent top end for the deck if you were to make it less combo orientated. Might be something to think about. And again, I'm begging you to try out Survival of the Fittest. The more I get to play it, the more I'm falling in love with it. The ability to change a random creature (maybe a dredger ;) ) into one of our wincons is just too good.

June 12, 2016 2:20 a.m.

Matrixxx999 says... #14

DKN how many posts befor, I suggested Survival of the Fittest. In decks like this one, and especialy based on GY combos with creatures this card is absolutly insane, and in 90 % it should mean a GG. So I join to Catgroove and highly suggest you to use this greate card! :)

June 12, 2016 4:14 a.m.

Catgroove says... #15

Under Creatures, Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord: you have Mortivore even though he is no longer in the deck. Under Sorceries: Traverse the Ulvenwald "...which isn't tpp hard to achieve...", Maelstrom Pulse "...non-land permanent you which offends the Almighty Hypnotoad..." guessing the you was a left over from a past draft. Under Instants: Geth's Verdict "Strips a card from a player's hand..." sadly it's not also a discard :(. Under Combos: Terravore is still listed even though he is no longer in the deck. Also you probably want to change your wording after the "PLEASE NOTE:" part as Necrotic Ooze won't be able to sack itself by copying Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord effect. Under Filth: "...graveyard (and a Swamp in play..." replace ( with a comma. Under Notable Exclusions: Change the wording of Arcane Spyglass as the way it is now makes it sound like each time you sack a land to Spyglass you will get 2 draws.

June 12, 2016 5 a.m.

Catgroove says... #16

TY Matrixxx999, glad to see someone else sees how stupidly amazing this card is! :D

June 12, 2016 5:04 a.m.

Catgroove says... #17

Aaaaaaand I shouldn't be editing at 5 in the morning -_-. Disregard my bit on Arcane Spyglass. I somehow missed that it said draw a card on each sack, and only read it as put a charge counter on it.

June 12, 2016 5:10 a.m.

Ender666666 says... #18

Catgroove Thank You, I'll clean up those errors!

And I Will try Survival of the Fittest... I promise, Matrixxx999

June 12, 2016 8:25 a.m. Edited.

Yeah you can go ahead and remove my last comment. I just got jumpy when I saw yours was #1. +1 to a fellow hypnotoad playa!

June 12, 2016 8:52 a.m.

Ender666666 says... #20

Thanks man. I already removed it, just didn't need the drama in the thread. You list is so sweet, and honestly, I checked to be sure yours wasn't ahead of mind before posting that stuff.

So, does every one love your deck as much as they love mine, when you play it?

I'm honestly surprised they printed it, so.......... Broken..... :D

June 12, 2016 8:57 a.m.

Catgroove says... #21

While I'm glad you're giving Survival of the Fittest a go, I don't think Traverse the Ulvenwald is the correct cut. In my mind, I hold tutors above most other things in combo orientated decks. I've been going back and forth between cutting Centaur Vinecrasher or Lord of Extinction to make room for it. I have not used the Jarad's route to success (in three easy steps) too much. On one hand we can bring back Vinecrasher to sack as many times as we have mana and a land outlet over x turns, but on the other Extinction will normally only needed to be sacked the once (except against those pesky life gain decks). The_Dragonmaster I meant no hostilities with my post. I enjoy any and every version of tribute that we can pay to the merciful one. I've been trying your version as well, and have been finding great results. I am just more inclined to go with a more combo version than beatdown as that is the style of play I prefer.

June 12, 2016 2:08 p.m.

Ender666666 says... #22

Catgroove I hear ya, but I'm gonna try losing the Traverse for now. Although it's great, it is only at its best when Delerium is online. Cutting a creature to add a creature Tutor that requires sacrifice, seems counter intuitive

June 12, 2016 5:49 p.m.

Catgroove says... #23

Survival of the Fittest only needs a discard, which is much easier to do then a sacrifice with all of our dredgers. The way I've been seeing it, those two play the same role and are generally interchangeable in most cases. With this in mind, having two copies of a now searchable card is unneeded in favor of another tutor, while yes is not at it's best until Delirium is online. But once active can tutor most of our combo pieces. Also most of the time neither of them is going to be the card searched for with Survival of the Fittest. From my testing, I have mostly tutored into a dredger (if one is not already in hand/grave) then pitch that for whatever I really need. Be it Jarad, Skirge, or Azusa.

June 12, 2016 7:40 p.m.

When I first saw the toad, I didn't think of combo to be honest. I really thought of super ramp with lot's of to the side synergy. But now I see the synergy can be taken to a new level with all of the Johnnies building on this guy. I was kind of a Johnny, until they banned Twin from modern lol

June 12, 2016 7:46 p.m.

Ender666666 says... #25

More Pimpage arrived today.

Behold my custon Mox Diamond proxy (I own 4x from STH, which are in Huuuuuge Tracts of Land, and saw no point in buying another when something cooler could be had for less).

This was conceptualized and designed by me, specifically for this deck. Illustrated by Volkan Baga, on an Artist Proof of Realms Uncharted (since there are no Artist Proofs of his FTV Mox Diamond), I felt that this would be a perfect and unique addition to my Hypnotoad deck.

Without further ado, here it is:

Mox Diamond Proxy

June 14, 2016 2:03 p.m.

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