Everybody Loves Jund
Modern
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Bannings —Jan. 21, 2015
Well the B&R update didn't give us Bloodbraid Elf, but it made us relevant again, if not very powerful moving forward. Siege Rhino makes it hard to continue to ignore white, so I also have NRO New Rhino Order as a working list on that front. What is everyone's opinion?
ChiefWannaHacka says... #2
Thanks, I'll address each point and my thought process for the choices.
Dreadbore is great in that it can hit PW's, but There are few PW's in Modern that demand a card that can outright kill them. True it would help deal with a Karn and maybe a Gideon Jura, but the instant speed on Terminate allows me to kill man lands such as Celestial Colonnade which is much more relevant than the off chance to kill a PW.
Grim Lavamancer is a 1 of, simply because that's how many I need. It isn't tough to be able to activate every turn, but couple that with the Treasure Cruise craze and GY management is a real thing. With one I can have it sometimes, but I can still reliably manage my GY so my Tarmogoyfs are decidedly larger than my opponents creatures.
The SB on here is actually out of date. I have made changes since the meta has shifted, and I do have 2 copies of Grafdigger's Cage The Obstinate Baloth is for the burn and mirror match up, and I don't think it does what you think. I've also added 2 Choke and a Sword of Fire and Ice to the SB.
I'm glad you like it, it's definitely a labor of love. If you have any other comments or questions feel free to drop by.
December 31, 2014 12:40 a.m.
As I said, this deck looked really good, and you have much more experience with it than I do. Most of my changes were mainly preference based, and I understand your decisions. I like the SB much better now, but I thought the Surgical Extractions were great in there in case someone ends up discarding a Splinter Twin or Scapeshift.
December 31, 2014 10:16 a.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #4
I see some small issues with your manabase. I don't feel that a basic Mountain is necessary, and the second Swamp is important to cast Liliana of the Veil under Blood Moon and in general to have access to your most abundant color while paying less life. I'd also switch a Wooded Foothills to a Bloodstained Mire, as once again black is the color you need the most.
Two cards that I'm interested in your opinion on are Murderous Cut and Dismember. Dismember is obviously very powerful, and in my testing with it Murderous Cut has proven very powerful. I can see the potential for taxing your graveyard with Lavamancer and Cut, but I do feel that Dismember is worth inclusion.
December 31, 2014 10:41 a.m.
ChiefWannaHacka says... #5
The basic mountain is there in case I need Red for Chandra, Pyromaster or Olivia Voldaren without losing too much life. Any deck that plays Blood Moon is a deck that I generally board out Liliana as she's too slow.
I could see the change from a Foothills into a Mire, but an additional basic Swamp is unnecessary with 4 Abrupt Decay.
I have been debating over Murderous Cut, but the way I see it I already play Slaughter Pact Over Dismember due to the life loss if flipped by Bob. Dismember is one hell of a card, but that spot I have filled by Pact, and I like the ability to tap out and blow someone out. Murderous Cut I feel would be worse than Dismember due to the tax on my GY.
I have been thinking about trying out Bitterblossom somewhere in the MB. It helps with the GY management by being a Tribal Enchantment, or just plain being Bitterblossom.
Sauron_ says... #1
I said that I would take a look at this deck, and I am thoroughly impressed. This seems to be a very competitive Jund deck, and would be a scary opponent to face off against. I can't really find anything glaringly wrong, there are a few things that come down to personal preference. I find Dreadbore to be a better removal than Terminate, and I know that the argument for Instant speed versus Sorcery is valid, yet I like the feeling of being able to hit a T5 or T6 Karn Liberated. I'm also surprised you don't have Grim Lavamancer as a 3-of. You have 10 sac-lands, and 17 instants and sorceries. That compromises almost half of your deck, and being able to hit with 2 damage each turn that can't be blocked is relevant. I know in the long run Goblin Rabblemaster will outpace it for damage output, but each turn Rabblemaster runs the risk of being blocked by a bigger creature. This may be your way of trying to steer away from the burn approach, but Lavamancer can also act as removal for both creatures and planeswalkers. This is, however, up to you as I am sure you have spent far more time testing with this deck than I have. My last thought is about the 1-of Obstinate Baloth in your sideboard. I know it combos with Liliana of the Veil, but wouldn't that spot be better suited for a GY hate card? You only have Scuze in your mainboard to deal with opposing graveyards, but if another deck ran a Grim Lavamancer mono-red burn or the fast growing Jeskai delver deck, I feel that a stronger card is warranted. Some thoughts include Grafdigger's Cage and Rakdos Charm. I personally like Rakdos Charm better because it still allows for the Scuze pumps.
Anyways, I really enjoyed this deck, and +1!
December 30, 2014 9:30 p.m.