Extort Abuse Post Rotation (feedback wanted)
Standard*
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ScionLocke says... #2
24 non-land permanents... WAY too many. Let's get started shall we.
Shadow Alley Denizen is a staple for black decks but problem is a lot of your cards are mono white. so ther are better things that use the spot it takes up
Tormented Soul is nice for pinging, but with all the extortion going on, do you really need it?
Oblivion Ring is in every sense better than Arrest . if you want to keep it in there, make that replacement. Alternatively, move that arrest into a One Thousand Lashes
If you ask me, 4x Tithe Drinker is better than one and 3x Syndic of Tithes . I'll leave that option to you but keep it at one or the other
Sinister Possession turns pretty bad late game where that creature is enchanted is swinging for more life than he's loosing. Take those out. boarding in a combination of Holy Mantle and Gift of Orzhova or two of one of those.
Hope i've helped
May 18, 2013 1:38 p.m.
legendarychina says... #3
Thank you for your help :-) I'll keep taking whatever feedback anyone gives but this deck is already looking better. All i have to do is obtain these cards now.
May 18, 2013 1:52 p.m.
in addition, any arrest/pacifism/lashes effect will get ripped apart in constructed because most decks can splash white and those that can run restoration angel. if she rotates out and isn't replaced by a similar card they may be playable but until then take them out and 4 oring no questions. crypt ghast=aweseome, orzhov keyrune is too slow against aggro and not big enough to weather a true storm/thrag. 4 murder i think is a no brainer and orzhov charm is way better than smite as you're running aggro so you probably won't be blocking much and if you are youre probably in a bad spot. in general i like auras more than most but i dont think they fit your deck, especially dying wish and you dont have much protection so they'll get 2 for1ed pretty quick most likely.
in short +4oring +4 murder +3 orzhov charm - 8 auras -2smite - shadow alley denizen. keep the board clear and extort to the max, happy games :)
May 18, 2013 1:53 p.m.
legendarychina says... #5
Thank you honey. I've never done a fnm yet so having this info is invaluable
May 18, 2013 1:59 p.m.
SpitFirePunk says... #6
If you could get a couple Vault of the Archangel , I think that could help late game.. just remove one of each basic land. Can be used to remove a lot of blockers or just for more life gain.
If your theme is to slow down your opponent & use extort, a couple Blind Obedience wouldn't go a miss either.
May 18, 2013 3:15 p.m.
Ripp out 1x Vizkopa Guildmage, 1x Beckon Apparition and 1x Syndicate Enforcer and get 2 more Crypt Ghast or really any other extort cards as they are easily your weakest in the deck. If you can, try and get a hold of 4x Isolated Chapel.
May 18, 2013 4:32 p.m.
SpitFirePunk says... #9
As it's a budget deck Isolated Chapel & Godless Shrine may be a bit too much.... I know I certainly despise paying loads for land cards...
May 18, 2013 7:03 p.m.
ScionLocke says... #10
well those have become a bit cheaper and are easier to get due to the land slot change in dragon's maze
May 18, 2013 7:12 p.m.
SpitFirePunk says... #11
I'm looking to get them myself... Will cost me 20-30 pounds (UK) for 4 chapels & 15-30 for 4 shrines... All depends on where you get your cards from, I prefer ebay as sometimes I can grab a bargain haha
May 18, 2013 7:28 p.m.
legendarychina says... #12
This is really helping me. I have a bunch of friends that have extras of these and that I will most likely be able to borrow or trade. As soon as this deck is set I'll let you guys know how it does. Thank you for the help
May 18, 2013 8:08 p.m.
SpitFirePunk says... #13
Also, have a look at these 2 decks (not mine), may help a bit for comparison etc:
ultimate extortion & Orzhov's Extort Undying Blink!!! (PROTOTYPE)
Though if you feel like critiquing one of mine, am looking for comments/suggestions on An Artists' Price ;)
May 19, 2013 6:38 a.m.
ScionLocke says... #15
add in a couple more Blind Obedience in the sideboard for aggro match ups
May 27, 2013 1:15 a.m.
Frimbleglim says... #16
I like to play 3x Glaring Spotlight
in case I end up against a deck with lots of hexproof.
May 30, 2013 12:52 p.m.
quickstream says... #17
I'm running an orzhov deck myself and my main problem is end game killing. you need to drop some removal for beat downs whether its Debt to the Deathless which you can combo with Vizkopa Guildmage + Rhox Faithmender when you got 1 or 2 Crypt Ghast out to just gain so much life they cant cope (minus control decks dont try outlife a control deck beat it down for this side Duress & Sin Collector )
i would definaly run 2 or even 3 Blood Baron of Vizkopa
also drop the basilica guards if you want to fill that slot bring back your Syndic of Tithes but personally get 4 Vampire Nighthawk
May 30, 2013 7:39 p.m.
quickstream says... #18
have a look at my extort deck, by no means is it finished but im starting to win against agro decks, stil have trouble with them. Control decks its hit or miss i need more Sin Collector and Duress
May 30, 2013 7:58 p.m.
I tried an extort and it didn't make it very far. I'm sure better minds then mine can make it work though. I would suggest considering extort as a plus instead of a main win con. Using cards like Crypt Ghast and Blind Obedience for their main capabilities and extort as a little something something.
May 30, 2013 11:39 p.m.
legendarychina says... #20
Thanks for the suggestions quickstream. As soon as I can get my hands on Blood Baron of Vizkopa , he should find his way into this deck. I've taken your suggestion as well and added Vampire Nighthawk . Basilica Guards was only being used as a blocker with extort and I wanted to figure out what to do to get a better creature. And the same theme applies. I've also added Duress and Sin Collector to my sideboard. I have been trying to figure out combos to help with control and you may have found my solution
Reaper44, extort isn't exactly the primary method to win. In all reality this is an extort aggro deck. The cheap creatures continue to attack each turn and as more extort comes out, more life is lost. It's kinda a two pronged attack and my tests have been working so far. Tomorrow will be the ultimate test for me though.
May 31, 2013 12:32 a.m.
The thing I'm seeing here is that the deck is trying to be offensive with very weak creatures. I'd suggest that you go for a more defensive playstyle, either by abusing the extort mechanic and adding more removal with cards like Basilica Guards , Smite , Executioner's Swing , High Priest of Penance and a full playset of the Blind Obedience, or more of a leech style, with cards that slowdown your opponent with removal like what I mentioned above or some discarding with Mind Rot , Slate Street Ruffian and Purge the Profane and some cards that leech the opponent away little by little like Stab Wound , Sinister Possession , One Thousand Lashes and Shrieking Affliction , and some other extorting to survive such as what you already have. I'd also say out with the Orzhov Charm, but you decide.
May 31, 2013 11:41 p.m.
By the way, all these cards are worth around 25 cents at any store. Except the priest, which might be like a dollar, so it works for budget.
May 31, 2013 11:43 p.m.
quickstream says... #23
if you are struggling against control decks you need to out run them try throwing in Rhox Faithmender , this will give you more life gain, for the short term you need to survive the first few turns where the agro decks rule, when you hit mid game you will have a lot going for you with a good setup, Debt to the Deathless linked into a combo with Vizkopa Guildmage and Rhox Faithmender means you deal a lot of damage in 1 turn, with crypt ghast you can deal easily upwards of 15-25 damage for as little as 7 mana if you have 4 swamp and 3 plains for 24 damage. chain goes (with the faithmender on the field)vizkopa 2nd ability into debt and bam you deal damage, gain life, and in turn deal that much back as more damage.
DO NOT RELY ON THAT, its more telling you a good combo if you can set it up,, grab 2 Blood Baron of Vizkopa they are great cards
June 1, 2013 12:02 a.m.
SO with this deck i think you need FOR SURE Rhox Faithmender he will help against those aggro decks 1/5 is hard for them to kill unless they 2 for 1 you which against aggro is not to bad
June 1, 2013 10:22 a.m.
nashbridges52 says... #25
You're going to want more sorcery and instant spells and cheaper spells at that. Cheaper spells mean you'll still have mana open to activate the extort triggers. Take out One Thousand Lashes
for sure and probably 2 of the Oblivion Ring
and then just add a hand full of removal spells like Tragic Slip
or Ultimate Price
.
Extort is really powerful because you can sit back, control the board and still be picking away at your opponents life.
Here's the extort deck I run, maybe it'll give you some ideas. Extort Court
gacde says... #1
Crypt Ghast would be a bomb in the deck. I would highly suggest them if you plan to win by extort.
May 18, 2013 12:08 p.m.