DeletedNow4ever says... #2
I understand about the Honor of the Pure and I think it would be a good card in this deck. The only thing I see it lacking is the fact that I'm more so leaning on the Favorable Winds in this deck which hits EVERY creature in this deck. The Intangible Virtue s are there for the vigilance boost they give my tokens. I'll try a few test runs with the HotPs in the deck, but I think the virtues get me out of tighter jams.
May 17, 2012 5:17 a.m.
Stony Silence , Ratchet Bomb will murder you... at least sideboard. +1 hough, love the deck
May 17, 2012 10:06 a.m.
generalmoepie says... #4
some Snapcaster Mage s would be favorable, nice flash blockers for more tokens. -2 island -1 plains +3Moorland Haunt
May 17, 2012 12:23 p.m.
DeletedNow4ever says... #5
Here's my question on Ratchet Bomb would it get rid of my creature tokens since technically they don't have an actual cmc?
May 17, 2012 2:05 p.m.
Not having a CMC is the exact same thing as having a CMC of zero. Ratchet Bomb activated with zero counters on it kills all tokens, Ornithopter s, Memnite s, and transformed cards (i.e. Ravager of the Fells and Howlpack Alpha ). Ratchet Bomb is one of the only reasons why Werewolf decks can't really got off the ground on the tournament scene. All of the creatures (when they're on their better side) have 0-CMC and make tokens.
May 17, 2012 2:24 p.m.
An analogy of why not having a CMC is the same as 0-CMC:
If you don't have any creatures on the field, what's the number of creatures you have on the field?
May 17, 2012 2:25 p.m.
DeletedNow4ever says... #8
Ok, no doubt. Siding in my extra counters and Cloudshift s would have to be a factor in that kind of sideboarding from an opponent. Just off the top of my head I cant think of any white cards that destroy artifacts, anyone have any cards for me? (Bare with me, just got back into magic at the end of DKA after a 15 year hiatus)
May 17, 2012 2:33 p.m.
DARK_r3ck0n1ng says... #9
Yes, i do agree that you should have 2 stony silence in the sideboard as i have seen more players siding in ratchet bombs over the past few tournaments, and in a large scale event you could never know. With that, I believe your side could use a little work to add more answers to the deck and less aggro, but I would like to hear based off your side how your sideoboard plan works out.
As for this deck I would,
3 oblivion ring, 1 mana leak, 2 negate, 2 geist of saint traft, 2 nihil spellbomb, 2 stony silence, 2 angelic destiny, 1 phantasmal image
May 17, 2012 2:42 p.m.
DARK_r3ck0n1ng says... #10
to remove artifacts for with Revoke Existence and Divine Offering . offering is better to main over the revoke as it has instant speed over the sorcery both very good cards.
May 17, 2012 2:44 p.m.
Revoke Existence gets the job done pretty well, though any card against Ratchet Bomb will have trouble keeping up. It slows you down and prevents you from cranking out tokens. If you try to kill it, your opponent just pops it and kills whatever is already out.
May 17, 2012 2:45 p.m.
DeletedNow4ever says... #12
I totally agree that my sideboard is a bit lacking right now. The only stipulation for decks I build on this site is that I have to have the cards or be in the process of trading for them. This decks sideboard will most likely be getting a nice boost when m13 comes out. I traded my only two oblivion rings a few weeks ago and trust me I'm kicking myself in the arse now. You should never trade when you first get into the scene or back into the scene. 99.999999% of the time the decks you start building in your first weeks that you think are hella awesome and stomp your friends in casual play get stomped hard when you go to FNM. That's what I get for quitting at 13 and picking this silly game back up @ 28!! ;)
May 17, 2012 2:51 p.m.
DeletedNow4ever says... #13
Tell me if I'm getting this right. Abilities go on the stack(I think), so if I wait for them to crack Ratchet Bomb then play Divine Offering my tokens would be safe because my instant would resolve first...correct? Also kind of off topic but something I'm not 100% sure on is if I cast Midnight Haunting at the end of their turn am I then able to attack with the tokens on my turn?
May 17, 2012 2:59 p.m.
Kogarasei09 says... #14
I love spirits, and I love what you did using Favorable Winds and the Drogskol Captain
I personally use a spirit-control deck myself that revolves around Call to the Kindred , and doesn't use tokens, 'cause having a free spirit popping each turn is always great. But I really like your take on the U/W spirits in an aggro-manner !
Might try this approach someday, seems really interesting !
May 17, 2012 3:38 p.m.
DeletedNow4ever says... #15
Kogarasei09 what's your deck called so I can check it out and possibly +1 your deck if I like itcough
May 17, 2012 4:17 p.m.
Kogarasei09 says... #16
its right here spirits-control and I forgot to +1, but I just kept reminding myself, I guess the more I thought about it, the less I remembered to +1 it XD
May 17, 2012 5:05 p.m.
Ratchet Bomb still goes off, and you can't actually destroy it in response to its second ability's activation. First of all, Ratchet Bomb is sacrificed as part of its cost (note the placement of the colon in the rules text). By the time your opponent announces that he/she is choosing to activate its second ability, Ratchet Bomb is already off of the board and in the graveyard.
Secondly, effects exist independently of their sources. For example, if you hit a Primeval Titan with Doom Blade after the land-fetching trigger went on the stack, Primeval Titan would die but its controller would still get to search for two lands afterwards.
May 17, 2012 6:38 p.m.
DeletedNow4ever says... #18
Ok, that all makes sense. I can't wait till October for the cycle. Coming in mid-cycle sucks!
May 18, 2012 3:48 p.m.
DeletedNow4ever says... #20
Yea I plan on trying to get a hold of some Stony Silence s
May 19, 2012 3:12 p.m.
i really liked the deck and im going to try it.... but i'll do a few changes on mine....
ill take Doomed Traveler out and put 1 extra Intangible Virtue and 2 Entreat the Angels .
Besides that, i dont know why u have Cloudshift on the sideboard... ill change that to 2 Righteous Blow and 2 Oblivion Ring.
May 21, 2012 6:05 p.m.
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May 24, 2012 6:56 a.m.
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zandl says... #1
I agree. With a Drogskol Captain
out, Honor of the Pure
puts you out of Whipflare
range. With Intangible Virtue
out and if a Whipflare
hits the board, all of your stuff still dies.
May 16, 2012 10:58 p.m.