Modern Allies - Primer (Updated for BfZ!)

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MadKat says... #1

I'm dissapointed with drana's emmissary....

September 10, 2015 12:12 p.m.

MadKat says... #2

Munda does seem pretty cool, I think maybe it could fit in another build, like midrange. so I agree that it works more with descendants path.

September 10, 2015 12:28 p.m.

Nef says... #3

I wish dramas emissarys effect also triggered when an ally entered

September 10, 2015 12:55 p.m.

Brionac says... #4

Just had a game where I couldn't handle a Restauration Angel until it beat me to death. What to do against flying creatures? There's a flying Ally Bird I think, but I don't see people running it. Why?

September 10, 2015 3:15 p.m.

Nef says... #5

Well I run a single Abzan Falconer atm which can do the trick. I also have 3 Ondu Cleric which helps a lot by keeping the life total up. I also have 4 Path to Exile to get rid of creatures I can't deal with.

September 10, 2015 3:28 p.m.

MadKat says... #6

BrionacThe bird works pretty well, I'd suggest giving it a try. I've recently cut it, but wouldn't be surprised if I put it back. Its great for evasion.

September 10, 2015 6:13 p.m.

Brionac says... #7

Well good thing I read through all the comments yesterday. aubman02 my message box said you mentioned me. Any idea what you wrote back then?

Anyway, on to new spoiler discussion:March from the Tomb allows us to mass resurrect up to 4 average Allies (by average I mean 2 CMC) for 5 mana or less bigger Allies. It's expensive, Return to the Ranks to the Ranks is probably more effective as it can be cast for less, but March has more value compared to a 5 mana Ranks.

September 11, 2015 1:31 a.m.

Brionac says... #8

After some testing, I would like more protection for my Allies. Running out of gas was key for the control decks I lost to yesterday. Thought about trying out the Naya list for reliable mana for Boros Charm. The article talks about probably replacing AEther Vials with Hardened Scales. I wonder why, I mean, can't we have both and Coco too? Would you run Scales over Vial?

I love the high +1/+1 Ally amount that All-in Allies provide, but as far as I've seen, the mana isn't consistent enough to have reliable access to non-Ally multi-colored cards like Boros Charm.

Another option would be something like Apostel's Blessing. I mean, we could Vial into Evangel, but I have yet to pull that off (I usually leave Vial at 2 because most Allies are 2 CMC).

September 11, 2015 4:29 a.m.

Nef says... #9

March from the Tomb interests me..

September 11, 2015 7:30 a.m.

MadKat says... #10

I've started using ephemeral shields...but yeah, that's the problem if you want to run boros charm. Going against control is tough. I think those type of decks are dedicated to dealing with aggro decks though. Even then, it would be nice to come up with a way to deal with it without messing with the original build too much.

Brionac, it might be another list I mentioned you in...

September 11, 2015 9:23 a.m.

MadKat says... #11

March from the tombs I think will go in the sideboard...wish it had convoke, but even then, its good for the long grindy games you see against control.

September 11, 2015 10:34 a.m.

Snake_Oil says... #12

Allies!

March from the Tomb makes a strat using Hagra Diabolist somewhat viable! Imagine, best cast, you bring out a Diabolist, an Ondu Cleric and a Hada Freeblade -- What a turn, and even more if you already have a Diabolist out.

Could easily do an Abzan deck too for even more ramp.

September 11, 2015 10:34 a.m.

JLenzen says... #13

Brionac, you can still see all of the old comments by clicking the "comments" button on the most recent update.

September 11, 2015 1:05 p.m.

Brionac says... #14

aubman02 What did you take out of your build for the Ephemeral Shields?

September 11, 2015 4:02 p.m.

Brionac says... #15

Nevermind, I saw it in your list.

September 11, 2015 4:18 p.m.

MadKat says... #16

Hey guys, I just went 3-1 with the current list in the dailies! The problem is, the meta is really removal heavy, so I had to work hard for it. Maybe paper is different...

September 11, 2015 5:48 p.m.

Johanson69 says... #17

Did the Ephemeral Shields turn out useful?

@Munda, the new Ally with pseudo-scry-4: Lurking Predators with this guy also looks fun. Sadly too fragile and costly, but oh well.

September 11, 2015 5:51 p.m.

MadKat says... #18

Yeah, it helped one or two times. Saved me from an abrupt decay.

September 11, 2015 6:53 p.m.

Nef says... #19

Was it ever a dead draw? WAs there ever a time where just having another ally would've been better?

September 11, 2015 7:06 p.m.

MadKat says... #20

I have had those times, but I don't think I had it in the tournament. I think I ended up keeping them in the sideboard and bringing them in for removal heavy matchups. I put 2 spellskites in for the 2 spots i was using for shields.

September 12, 2015 3:49 a.m.

Nef says... #21

I like Spellskite because it can get hit by CoCo if you really need it.

September 12, 2015 9:01 a.m.

MadKat says... #22

Hey everyone, some other people have been doing well at the dailies, check out what Gerry has been writing about... http://www.starcitygames.com/article/31489_Daily-Digest-The-Zendikari-Will-Win.html

Also, look at the comments below; there's another guy who has a good build thats been doing well...

September 12, 2015 1:51 p.m.

MadKat says... #23

JLenzen, I think it's worth mentioning in your primer, if you want...

September 12, 2015 1:52 p.m.

Brionac says... #24

I see that all the lists mentioned in Articles are pretty much Naya. No splash for the 5 colors like with the All-In Allies. Maybe it's true that the deck is a "product of its support cards" (from the article) and staying 3-color enables more non-creature support cards. I will probably test the Naya version in addition to the All-In Allies (although I don't like how less +1/+1 Allies means we have to run more other Allies or Changelings).

September 12, 2015 3:27 p.m.

Johanson69 says... #25

Stephen Perigo currently is 7-2 at GP Oklahoma with a Naya list, hopefully we get a deck tech.

September 13, 2015 10:38 a.m.

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