Food Chain Sliver

Commander / EDH ShaperSavant

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ShaperSavant says... #1

I speak on it not having played it outside goldfishes, but having played against it (or a close variant) both in my paper group and online with some frequency. I am inclined to think that it is rather inconsistent, capable of early godhands with more frequency than most decks, and is overall fragile and non-interactive relative to the rest of the cream-of-the-crop. Not peronally my cup of tea, but certainly strong and viable. I think the meta will grow in resilience to the current popularity of Hulk. I'm not much for "top 5" lists, but I don't think it makes mine if I was.

Frank_Glascock

August 7, 2017 4:06 p.m.

Hipparchos says... #2

ShaperSavant I'm curious, is there also a discord chanel for FCT?

August 8, 2017 9:29 a.m.

ShaperSavant says... #3

https://discord.gg/B8XPcEz

Hipparchos

August 8, 2017 1:46 p.m.

Lorderos23 says... #4

Is there enough space to reasonably play the HD combo in this deck? They share quite a few pieces.

A friend of mine played a hybrid and it was dece.It gives the deck another angle.

August 24, 2017 11:25 a.m.

ShaperSavant says... #5

Lorderos23

You can definitely play Tazri as a hybrid deck with FC & Druid, but the playstyle and deck composition changes pretty significantly, becoming an entirely different deck.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tazri-hulk-druid/

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tazri-druid/

August 24, 2017 12:06 p.m.

Frank_Glascock says... #6

Shaper, what got cut for Gilded Drake? The change log at the bottom says Worldly Tutor but I thought that was already removed.

September 16, 2017 7:31 a.m.

Frank_Glascock says... #7

Shaper, ignore that last question. I saw that you had made a revision within the last day and I did not check the comments before posting. Sorry for the mistake.

September 16, 2017 7:35 a.m.

Wraith223 says... #8

Just built this deck. Love it. Thoughts on a few cards. I play against heavy Aggro.Angels grace to go full lab maniac.Oketras last mercy for life recovery.The white pact to not loose.

September 29, 2017 5:55 p.m.

RyaNola says... #9

loving the deck so far, thougths on where you may slide in something like Faerie Macabre in a graveyard/hulk heavy meta?

October 10, 2017 7:25 p.m.

ndgipper says... #10

Wow, I really like this deck. Coming from only playing tazri in a janky ally tribal build, this is really cool to see. Just wondering, have you ever considered maybe adding in the Turntimber Ranger + Arcane Adaptation combo? It works ok, if your food chain plan falls through for some reason. Other than that, it looks like a really fun deck to use.

October 12, 2017 12:18 a.m.

DeadassJ says... #11

ShaperSavant can this deck work without the duellands

October 12, 2017 12:47 a.m.

Hipparchos says... #12

DeadassJ: Definitely! I play the $420-Version and it's able to win on turn 4-5 regularly.

October 12, 2017 5:16 a.m.

ShaperSavant says... #13

DeadassJ Yes. Check the budget section in the primer.

October 12, 2017 10:49 a.m.

DeadassJ says... #14

thanks for the quick response guys

October 12, 2017 11:16 a.m.

Dpow1315 says... #15

Hello, I was wondering why the deck needs three ally's to win. Wouldn't you just need one with Tazri to kill the table?

November 17, 2017 3:20 p.m.

ShaperSavant says... #16

Demonic Consultation and Tainted Pact exile allies while finding Food Chain Dpow1315

November 17, 2017 8:54 p.m.

Dpow1315 says... #17

Ohh. Got it. Thanks for the response!

November 17, 2017 11:35 p.m.

Kapadocio_ says... #18

Hi ShaperSavant! I have a question, why don't you use Gaea's Cradle? Because you have so many dorks... I own a copy of the craddle so I wanted to used it, what do you think?

November 18, 2017 4:41 a.m.

ShaperSavant says... #19

Kapadocio_ We can't really expect to have too many creatures and it's really important that lands tap for colors on the early turns. Cradle was in some of the initial drafts of the deck but it proved to not be worth the slot and early game inconsistency.

November 25, 2017 4:19 p.m.

Team_KLK says... #20

ShaperSavant Would Rest in Peace fit in the deck? As we are already trying to exile Eternal Scourge & Misthollow Griffin... It blows reanimator decks back out.

I'm finding Dark Tutelage is a good cheap option to replace Dark Confidant.

One last question, outside of the mana base, what do you believe are the 3-4 first pieces to upgrade within the deck? I'm running a version between the $420 & $1000 now, I'm thinking Pact of Negation, Mana Drain, Flusterstorm.

November 29, 2017 1:12 a.m.

ShaperSavant says... #21

Team_KLK RIP is functional in the deck, but Containment Priest serves generally the same role, except has flash and sacs for FC mana. RIP means you need to be much more careful to ensure the combo is forced through, but it shouldn't be too much of an issue.

Tutelage has the same issue where Confidant is played largely because it sacs to FC. It's somewhat decent into a grindy meta, but I might choose to play some other one-shot draw like Night's Whisper or Impulse or Sleight of Hand instead.

The cards to get first are Sylvan Library, Mana Crypt, Imperial Seal, Force, and Pact. Force/Pact are more versatile buys overall but the extra tutor goes a long way in this particular deck.

December 4, 2017 1:12 p.m.

HezTheGod says... #22

I've always thought FC decks should play Ancestral Knowledge but maybe it's too slow/bad?

January 5, 2018 12:48 a.m.

Mfstrom says... #23

I have been playing cEDH for quite some time, and I really like this list. I am in a playgroup of four where everyone is playing tier 1.5 and up all the time. So I would like to add my two cents for the players who are in the same situation as me.

Possible changes and why:

OUT:

Culling the Weak (too weak imo)

Fire Covenant (hard to cut, but I never really miss it)

Boreal Druid (Its the worst of the dorks, and we got plenty)

IN:

Counterspell (can become whatever you like, I just like more protection)

Negate (a must play in my meta)

Pernicious Deed (you will need this against Grand Arbiter Augustin, Teferi and Tymna/Tana. I goes around Rule of Law and cards like that)

January 20, 2018 5:49 a.m.

Mfstrom says... #24

I have been playing cEDH for quite some time and I play in a playgroup of four. We all play tier 1.5 and up. From my experience I would change a couple of cards in this otherwise AWESOME list (gj Shaper and Big):

OUT:

Boreal Druid - Its the worst of the dorks, and I never really want it. Sometimes I even mulligan even though I have G mana and Boreal on my starting hand.

Fire Covenant . The hardest card to cut, but I never really miss it. And I put in Pernicious Deed, see below why.

Culling the Weak - Its good, but I never really miss it in this deck.

IN:

Counterspell - Or any other kind of disruption. I am leaning towards playing Mana Leak actually.

Negate - We need protection/disruptoin when playing against tier 1.5 and above.

Pernicious Deed - This card shines against decks that are hard for this deck. That is GAAIV, Teferi and the uprising of Tymna/tana. I really like it so far.

January 29, 2018 10:06 a.m.

ShaperSavant says... #25

Mfstrom

Glad you're enjoying it. Interaction/Culling swaps are pretty reasonable; tune it to your meta. I play FireCov to be able to surgically remove the bears preventing the win without damaging your on-board Food Chain mana. Pernicious Deed is fine if it suits your playstyle/meta. I can't see myself ever wanting to remove Boreal Druid, though. I'd play several more dorks if there were more to play.

January 29, 2018 10:46 a.m.

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