JakeHarlow says... #2
Yeah I think Stubborn Denial is generally better since it also stops the hard ramp decks from casting Nissa's Renewal, Explosive Vegetation, etc.
November 3, 2015 7:04 p.m.
Carson12rocks says... #3
Here's something I need help with, I'm not sure if I should play Frost Walker or Managorger Hydra.
November 3, 2015 9:22 p.m.
GoblinTaskmaster says... #4
Managorger Hydra all the way, hands down. I recommend from play experience use her as you t4 drop with B available after playing Savage Knuckleblade on t3. Either the opponent has already used removal on the big guy and you'll have him pinned and afraid of playing anything or you can bluff a Stubborn Denial in hand that will counter directly. Either way, the whole game changes and focuses on the hydra, or at least that is what your opponent will have to do to stay alive.
November 4, 2015 12:20 a.m.
Carson12rocks says... #5
Thanks! I think you may be right... I'll try it out. Thanks again and PS. Por favor hit the +1 button?
November 4, 2015 12:28 a.m.
JundGrixisNayaBantEsper says... #6
Will you try Mantis Rider? Already splashing white, if not him, Dromoka's Command is a great tool to remove and apply pressure with bigger creatures.
November 5, 2015 12:52 a.m.
Carson12rocks says... #7
The white splash is pretty hard to work with in the first place, but I have been considering adding a single basic Plains for the second basic with Windswept Heath. But that would mess with savage knuckleblade. I don't know, I need to straiten out my land base. I may consider Dromoka's Command
November 5, 2015 7:44 p.m.
JundGrixisNayaBantEsper says... #8
I have been testing with my 4-color list with my brother's Atarka Red list and the mana has been great. I run only 3 Heaths and 3 Evolving Wilds to search for land and then I run 2 of each dual land (Canopy Vista Cinder Glade Prairie Stream) for a mainly Jeskai Splash Green list. I highly recommend using a few Canopy Vista for to splash white.
On a side note definitely need quick removal on Monastery Swiftspear and a good amount of quick counters against pumps!
November 6, 2015 2:19 p.m.
Carson12rocks says... #9
Came back from FNM with a lot of cards I needed for this deck. I traded for a different fetch, a Bloodstained Mire, which actually does the same thing. I also traded for a Sunken Hollow, 2 Cinder Glade, 2 Sarkhan Unbroken and 2 Dragonmaster Outcast and I didn't even need to trade away my Marsh Flats although I almost did, but the dude I would have traded it too was asking me to forgo 60$ of its value because he would be buying the cards, so I said no.
November 7, 2015 12:39 p.m.
JundGrixisNayaBantEsper says... #10
Why Sunken Hollow if I may ask? Are you splashing black?
November 8, 2015 9:08 a.m.
Carson12rocks says... #11
No, but I use it for blue and the black to make Woodland Wanderer a 6/6. It's just there for fixing. I probably will be playing with the white splash instead of the black and put in Dromoka's Command instead of Temur Charm. But when I traded, this is what they had.
Carson12rocks says... #1
Thanks man. I think that my list sounds somewhat similar to your old one, but this one has more resilient threats and can also play high level threats immediately. I'm actually on the same delimma as you between Dispel and Stubborn Denial for example, it would not be even close to new for me to counter a planeswalker, enchantment, or lots and lots of sorceries. In this way, Stubborn Denial is more versatile and will also take out sweepers.
November 3, 2015 7:18 a.m.