McClair_Bear says... #2
Thanks! I'll go searching when I have some time. I like the self mill idea, since I'm thinking that I can sub out Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord for my general.
Thanks!
December 23, 2012 10:33 a.m.
MasterFlinter says... #3
card:Executioner's Capsule is a shoe in for any Glissa deck. card:Nevinyrral's Disk is also extremely useful. There are a few other consumable artifacts not on your list that deserve consideration, such as Armillary Sphere , Expedition Map , Mind Stone , and really any artifact that can be sacrificed for a purpose.
As far as equipment goes Viridian Longbow and Thornbite Staff are common in Glissa decks. Personally, due to the synergy between trample and deathtouch I like to use Sword of Vengeance and Loxodon Warhammer a lot.
My suggestions are all general purpose cards that fit well in any deck with Glissa as the commander and serve as a solid base while you figure out what direction you want to go.
December 26, 2012 12:46 p.m.
McClair_Bear says... #4
Ohhh, I never even thought about pinging! Are there more cards like those two? And I'll do some searching for consumable artifacts asap.
How does the creature base look? I think the deck needs more draw, but I don't want group hug cards like Howling Mine or Seizan, Perverter of Truth .
December 26, 2012 12:56 p.m.
MasterFlinter says... #5
There are a few more pieces of equipment that allow Glissa to headshot her enemies but in general they are just worse versions of what you already have like card:Wolfhunter's Quiver or Hankyu . There is one interesting piece of equipment that would allow Glissa to commit murder on a large scale, however. Check out Kusari-Gama .
Your creatures look strong but there is not much to say about them until you have decided on a theme for your deck. With Glissa there are many routes you can take that will want very different types of creatures. Creatures for Good Stuff, Voltron, Self-Sacrifice, Self-Mill, and Tribal Glissa decks will obviously not share a lot in common. I will say that I think you will find Phyrexian Revoker to be extremely underwhelming in Commander and that Primeval Titan 's strength is directly proportional to the power level of non-basic lands in your deck so unless you beef up the lands he is not very good.
Black and green have a metric shit-ton of card draw to choose from, and that is not even counting potential artifacts you can use. You've already got some of the best in your list but to give you some more ideas you can look at Underworld Connections , Necropotence , card:Yawgmoth's Bargain, Griselbrand , Triumph of Ferocity , and Greater Good . Single shot spells include Harmonize , Disciple of Bolas , Momentous Fall , and card:Ambition's Cost. When you start to narrow the focus on your deck you can look at more specialized versions of card draw, for example Grim Flowering would be great in a self-mill or self-sacrifice deck but not very useful is other variants.
December 26, 2012 4:35 p.m.
McClair_Bear says... #6
Wow! Thanks!
So I've been thinking, and I think that making a self-mill (like you said, and much like the idea many of the current sprites decks have) could be beneficial. Take out a lot of the current creatures, and replace them with artifacts/artifact creatures, and end up Exhume ing or Reanimate ing some big guys.
Thanks for your help! Tonight I'll fix this thing up using your ideas!
December 26, 2012 5:06 p.m.
MasterFlinter says... #7
Now your deck is really starting to take shape. It looks like a lot of fun. Let me reel off a few cards that you may or may not have already considered.
Hermit Druid is amazing in a deck that wants a little self mill. Golgari Grave-Troll , Stinkweed Imp , and Shambling Shell are also quite nice, it just depends on how hard you want to push the milling theme.
Life from the Loam , Eternal Witness and Treasured Find are great additions, especially since ~56 of the cards in your deck currently serve you no benefit once they are in your own graveyard.
You also may want to look at more cards with Retrace and Flashback. Worm Harvest and Army of the Damned are some of the more powerful ones.
Finally, Black is full of strong recursive creatures like Gravecrawler , Reassembling Skeleton , and Bloodghast that could prove strong in your deck. Skullclamp plays extra nice with those cards in case you feel like putting that back on the list.
Your Glissa Reanimator is an angle I haven't taken before and looks like a cool and unique deck. Good luck stomping out your friends with her.
December 27, 2012 11:28 a.m.
McClair_Bear says... #8
Wow! Awesome, thanks a ton!
I do love the self mill theme I've got going on, so I'll be looking for more cards that can actually be beneficial from the graveyard. In that case, I need to bump up the artifact count, and drop some instant/sorcery/enchantments, or at least get some more cards with flashback.
I'll probably add in the spellbombs in the first few posts, and probably the Gravecrawler and Reassembling Skeleton in addition to Skullclamp . With self mill and Glissa's ability, that combo should be able to be pulled off fairly quickly.
The retrace and dredge mechanic could be very useful; I'll look into that a little more.
Again, I'll update the deck again tonight (or this afternoon), and I thank you very much for all your help!
December 27, 2012 12:27 p.m.
MartialArt says... #9
To use your commanders ability a bit more I would add some artifact creatures that come back quickly like Wurmcoil Engine .
January 7, 2013 1:30 p.m.
Fleetfiend says... #10
Creeping Corrosion might be interesing. Destroy all artifacts... then get yours back?
Then again, against a deck with few artifacts it would be a bit wishy-washy.
January 16, 2013 7:49 p.m.
McClair_Bear says... #11
I'll think about it. My playgroup is very much shenanigans-oriented, so destroying everything is usually beneficial. I was thinking Damnation as well.
Although, when I've played this, I usually stall a bit, get out a decent creature, and just start beating them down. Creature control is realllly good in EDH.
January 16, 2013 11:01 p.m.
Primevil Titan is banned bud, gonna have to remove it.
January 19, 2013 6:48 p.m.
Reference to MasterFlinter's first comment, Griselbrand and Yawgmoth's Bargain are also banned.
January 19, 2013 6:50 p.m.
I just now read the bold print, I usually skip what people type there just out of habit, everyone plays there own way I guess.
January 19, 2013 6:52 p.m.
McClair_Bear says... #17
Legality usually doesn't matter, but every once in a while it does. In such a case, I'll probably just throw in a Forest or Swamp.
January 19, 2013 7:29 p.m.
If Legality doesn't matter, make sure to make a deck focused around Shahrazad . :P
All joking aside, you could use some better removal.
Avatar of Woe , Pernicious Deed , Putrefy , Oblivion Stone , etc.
Also, since Prime Time is allowed in your play group, make sure to throw in an Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and Cabal Coffers .
January 20, 2013 8:01 p.m.
McClair_Bear says... #20
Thanks! If I ever go hard with this deck, definitely I'll add some of those. I don't want to add too many more $5+ cards, as my money is a little tight atm .-.
I like the Avatar of Woe and Putrefy , and the lands will be a go-to if I ever stumble into some bank.
Thanks for the suggestions!
January 20, 2013 8:08 p.m.
McClair_Bear says... #22
That's why it says I'm looking for a suitable replacement, and that my playgroup currently allows him
November 4, 2013 11:12 p.m.
A couple of creature cards I thought could be helpful are Sepulchral Primordial and Rune-Scarred Demon . The Primordial allows you to steal creature cards from you opponent(s), and the Demon gives you another option for searching your deck. I was curious how often are you able re-animate Gravecrawler ? I noticed you only have 2 other zombies in your deck, one of which is your general which you say gets killed pretty quickly early on. If you are looking for land advantage Sylvan Primordial could be a good option if you often play multi-player matches. I realize the card is not as good as Primeval Titan , but I guess that would be why it is banned.
November 5, 2013 8:16 a.m.
McClair_Bear says... #24
I like Rune-Scarred Demon . Definitely will do that. The Gravecrawler is to be comboed with Skullclamp , and if my Glissa is out, then I definitely take advantage of the draw as much as possible. So he alone is sort of useless, but when skullclamp and Glissa are out, he does some work. Bloodghast is also built around this mechanic.
Both of the Primordial will need some thinking about, as right now I'm contemplating throwing in some "return card from graveyard to hand" cards like Nature's Spiral , Recollect , Regrowth , and Stitch Together . These might fill in the gaps and make the deck run smoother. Ideas on that? And thank you for your input :)
November 5, 2013 6:17 p.m.
Yeah, I would say getting cards out of your graveyard will help out more than the two Primordials. I am not sure what could be removed right now, but that might help in making the deck more consistent.
jlgadrow says... #1
Spellbombs? Like Necrogen Spellbomb or Nihil Spellbomb for black or Lifespark Spellbomb and Horizon Spellbomb for green.
Some self mill cards like Grisly Salvage might help get artifacts into your graveyard as well.
I'd also look for more artifact creatures.
December 23, 2012 7:52 a.m.