Gone with the Windgrace *Primer*

Commander / EDH Phaetion

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_Delta_ says... #1

Hey just a few ideas here I thought I would share, Creeping Renaissance would be a great way to put a ton of lands back into hand so you can discard them again to either Borborygmos Enraged, or Seismic Assault.

Also adding a land or two like Karplusan Forest could help you when it comes to ever paying the colourless cost on World Breaker's activated ability. Also while very unlikely to be done, you could consider I suppose adding Song of the Dryads to give a way to have forestwalk be a bit more relevant.

Then Dryad Arbor could be a possible land to add in, with Green Sun's Zenith in hand this can be an easy source of ramp. Deathrite Shaman I think could also be helpful here.

Cabal Coffers along with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth you could consider here as well for some extra mana to use for an Exsanguinate/Torment of Hailfire, you got Ulvenwald Hydra and Scapeshift as a way to find these. Crop Rotation would help with this plan also. In fact Prismatic Omen also works with Cabal Coffers.

I'm considering building such a deck also, but with a much cheaper mana base though! Anyways I hope some of this is of use to you.

July 24, 2018 6:13 p.m.

KongMing says... #2

Yo, you should change the name of the deck to Gone with the Windgrace. I made you some art, Lord Windgrace playing Rhett Butler from Gone With the Wind.

Rhett Windgrace

July 24, 2018 6:33 p.m.

KongMing says... #3

Also, Terrain Generator might be a handy card for when you have a bunch of extra lands into your hand.

July 24, 2018 6:38 p.m.

Kingtalk says... #4

Your mana ratios could use some work, otherwise looks fun!

July 24, 2018 7:29 p.m.

Phaetion says... #5

KongMing: That is absolutely beautiful. Thank you so much! I changed the name accordingly. Now if only I knew how to put the picture as the featured card.

Kingtalk: I would love some advice here. I got so many cards to add but so little room. Any ideas?

Delta-117: I'll try to work to add these in, but like above, I got stuck trying to add a few other cards in.

Thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated. :)

July 24, 2018 7:55 p.m. Edited.

Kingtalk says... #6

Phaetion well it's not so much about adding cards as much as editing your land base to more accurately provide the colors you need. If you look to the right of the page it'll show the ratios of which lands tap for what kind of mana and what colors nonland cards require to cast. Looks like this deck skews pretty heavily green, but only about 31.5% of your lands tap for green mana. It's probably not the biggest deal, and having more red and black mana ensure you can get your commander out, I'd just worry about not having the colors you need to cast your spells. Let me know what your thoughts are on this

July 24, 2018 8:37 p.m.

Phaetion says... #7

Kingtalk: I messed with the landbase (and now got extra colorless-producing duals to work with World Breaker). Any better?

July 24, 2018 9 p.m.

Kingtalk says... #8

Phaetion looks better for sure!

July 24, 2018 9:58 p.m.

Thomasin4413 says... #9

The combo with gitrog and skirge familiar uses the dredge land and gaea's blessing to repeatedly shuffle in your yard to make infinite mana

July 25, 2018 11:02 p.m.

Phaetion says... #10

Thomasin4413: I knew I was missing something. Thanks!

July 26, 2018 11:23 a.m.

gman10 says... #11

Have you considered Beast Within or Chaos Warp? They are both very versatile and cheap

July 26, 2018 6:21 p.m.

Phaetion says... #12

gman10: I'll try to work those in. Thanks.

July 26, 2018 8:25 p.m.

You have Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle and 6 Mountains. So all Valakut will do for you is come into play tapped 99% of the time.

July 27, 2018 1:37 p.m.

Phaetion says... #14

President_Taft: The reason for Valakut is to work with Prismatic Omen and Scapeshift. Sure, it won't be the best most of the time, but it's no different from the classic The Gitrog Monster combo I got in there as well (though I still need to fit Gaea's Blessing in).

July 27, 2018 1:44 p.m.

Philipr99 says... #15

I would try Vesuva if youre going to play Scapeshift and Omen. Vesuva can copy valakut and you can get the triggers 2(x-1) which seems more optimal.

Also I am surprised not to see Strip Mine and Dust Bowl at the very least, as those cards are insane.

July 27, 2018 9:25 p.m.

Phaetion says... #16

Philipr99:

  1. Good point on Vesuva. I'll try to work it in. Would Thespian's Stage work too?

  2. Those were an oversight, but I wonder about the jerk move of comboing it with Crucible of Worlds and Ramunap Excavator. I'll try to work them both in, but it'll be Wasteland instead of Strip Mine.

July 28, 2018 11:34 a.m.

Love the deck and I've seen actually seen this movie so that made this especially funny. I don't know why people dislike Windgrace so much he's not bad at all. Question for you though: how did you get that custom pic of Windgrace into the correct format? I've been trying to upload my own custom pic for a deck I've been working on but I can't get it to work.

July 28, 2018 4:28 p.m.

Phaetion says... #18

nadder447: Thanks :D Personally, I'd say Windgrace is good at what he does. You bring out 2 fetches, and that's 4 landfall triggers right there. It happens more times when I play the deck than I an count (I might up the mountain and swamp counts by 1 each for this reason). That said, Gyrus is also an option once you see it. If you run enough dredge cards in a Lands deck, Gyrus actually becomes respectable, but not as good as our feline planeswalking friend.

To answer your question: I'm not the one who made the image. You'd have to ask KongMing for that. I'd love to stick it over the Abundance art, but idk how to do it.

By the way...the biggest irony here is that I've never read nor seen Gone with the Wind, but I did the research to pull off all the quotes and everything. I got a gist of what it's about through it all.

July 28, 2018 6:59 p.m.

Philipr99 says... #19

Phaetion

Thespian's Stage would only work if you already had it in play as a copy of Valakut if it was already in play. It wouldnt work as a surprise Shift kill.

July 28, 2018 10:07 p.m.

Phaetion says... #20

Philipr99: Alright. I'll replace the Stage with Vesuva. Thanks for the suggestions.

July 29, 2018 8:21 a.m.

EpicFreddi says... #21

Is budget a thing here? If not, we should play the lands that win games. Dark Depths, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale and manlands should be in here i'd say. Dark Depths in is worst case, is a mana sink with payout. In it's best case, it wins games. You can get the land back with and copy it with Thespian Stage. Also Realms Uncharted is a thing. Make split between Snow-Covered basics and normal ones so you could potentionally target the same basic twice.

July 29, 2018 8:50 a.m.

Phaetion says... #22

EpicFreddi: Yes and no. I built the deck using what I have. I can never afford Tabernacle, and while I can try and nab a Dark Depths, the Stage has since been replaced with Vesuva. That said, I do recommend the combo for those who wish to try it in their builds.

Good call on Realms. I'll try and work it in. As for the Snow lands, I can see the deck going all snow-covered basics, then add Scrying Sheets. Depends on my budget.

July 29, 2018 9:04 a.m.

BaceJeleren says... #23

Definitely more interesting than all the mass land destruction builds I've seen. I think just about all the instants in your maybeboard should be in the main deck along with Hour of Promise. Even without deserts it's very good, especially if you're running 2 card land combos like Urborg and Cabal Coffers. And if you ever decide to run Dark Depths + Thespian's Stage. Overall looks good though.

I'm running more of a combo deck and am looking for suggestions, check it out if you get a chance!


Windgrace Combo

Commander / EDH* BaceJeleren

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July 29, 2018 9:53 p.m.

Phaetion says... #24

BaceJeleren: I tried to add Hour of Promise, but taking out 5-drops was becoming very difficult. If there's one that could be removed, let me know so I can add it. Also, you say each of the instants can be added. Are there any ideas as to what to remove?

I'll look at your deck soon. Thanks for the comment.

July 30, 2018 2:48 p.m.

KongMing says... #25

I'm so glad to see how successful this deck has become on TappedOut! I'd like to think my witty name helped. :D

Really though, congratulations on such a tight build. I'd +1 you again if I could, lol.

July 30, 2018 4:21 p.m.

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