Graveyard? What graveyard?

Commander / EDH Raging_Squiggle

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What do you think about Avatar of Woe? Since I'll have most of my creatures in my graveyard it'll almost always only cost mana symbol bmana symbol b to cast.

July 25, 2016 5:37 p.m.

ComradeJim270 says... #2

It's an excellent choice. I still have it in Lazav and it's great to have Terminate on a stick. Since it's a creature it can also be recurred more easily. I think going with that and Hero's Downfall should work well.

July 25, 2016 5:44 p.m.

I'm gonna go pick up Hero's Downfall, Ultimate Price, Go for the Throat, and the Avatar. Now I need to find room for them.

July 25, 2016 5:54 p.m.

ComradeJim270 says... #4

Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed and Skinrender feel a bit low-impact. You could probably cut them easily enough to make room for two of those cards.

July 25, 2016 6:23 p.m.

Xiahou dun actually synergizes with a lot of the creature recursion cards in the deck, and being that he gets any black card from the yard, he's a much needed card for enchantment and instant/sorcery recursion. Plus I already dropped a bunch of money on him so I don't want to already take him out of the deck.

Skinrender could go away, I haven't got him yet. It's just another creature-based spot control so he can be dropped.

July 25, 2016 6:35 p.m.

I could probably throw out Traumatize. I haven't gotten it at all when I've played and when I do, nothing much happens afterwards.

July 25, 2016 6:42 p.m.

Lilbrudder says... #7

Reality Shift might be a nice spot removal card and blue also has cards like Pongify.

July 25, 2016 10:50 p.m.

ComradeJim270 says... #8

True, I do like Reality Shift because it exiles. Hero's Downfall is especially good because it hits multiple permanent types. Between those two and Avatar of Woe this list should be better equipped to deal with especially troublesome creatures.

July 25, 2016 11:14 p.m.

What about Silence the Believers? Good effect like Reality Shift and Curse of the Swine, but hits multiple creatures like Swine Curse without the drawback of giving them creatures. And it's an instant.

July 26, 2016 12:19 a.m.

ComradeJim270 says... #10

It's pretty mana-intensive, though. Usually I'd rather go "two mana, exile that dude, you get a Grizzly Bears" than exile something for four mana. I suppose it depends on what you're after.

July 26, 2016 12:26 a.m.

Probably pitch Ultimate Price for it then?

July 26, 2016 12:33 a.m.

I just found the card Oubliette. It's literally a black Oblivion Ring. Thoughts?

July 26, 2016 12:43 a.m.

ComradeJim270 says... #13

It's actually a black Journey to Nowhere, which is of course not as good as Oblivion Ring but it is a possibility. I still kind of like instant speed more, since it lets you interact with combos and the like.

I'd definitely take Reality Shift over Ultimate Price, it's just more versatile and it can deal with indestructible creatures.

July 26, 2016 1:22 a.m.

Sounds good. Just seems like an interesting card. Lol.

Anything else you think I'm lacking or can change around?

July 26, 2016 1:29 a.m.

ComradeJim270 says... #15

It looks pretty solid to me. It's very light on ramp, but test it first to see if that's much of an issue. Card draw is a bit light, but since you're milling yourself and using your yard like a second hand that may not matter.

July 26, 2016 1:53 a.m. Edited.

I've played 3 games so far, won 2 of them. Both were because I got Contamination out for enough turns. Last game someone borrowed my Ulamog deck and I couldn't handle the indestructible-ness of him. Hopefully that'll change with the new updates.

Hopefully this week I'll have more dry runs with it and see how it works.

The ramp is light true, but I can tutor up Crypt of Agadeem or Cabal Coffers, both of which work well with the deck and provide extra mana.

The card draw hasn't been too much of a problem. I control the creatures enough where I can just draw 1 card a turn and end up ok. But if I get River Kelpie or Cryptbreaker out I'm drawing too much.

July 26, 2016 2:03 a.m.

ComradeJim270 says... #17

Sounds good, then. I'd roll with this list.

July 26, 2016 2:20 a.m.

Awesome, thanks for the help.

I'll do what help I can for whatever commander you choose to build a monster deck around next. ;)

July 26, 2016 2:25 a.m.

shinsar says... #19

I would untag this from competitive

July 26, 2016 1:11 p.m.

What's your reasoning?

July 26, 2016 1:17 p.m.

shinsar says... #21

you are a zombie tribal deck with zero combo or control magic? you could easily add blood sac outlets with Gravecrawler/Rooftop Storm for infinite storm but your deck is very casual. Which is fine just its tagged wrong.

July 26, 2016 4:38 p.m.

Competitive is a relative term. A deck could be competitive in certain metas and weaker in other ones. In my current meta this deck is considered competitive. Cards or cost don't always determine the competetiveness of a deck, as I've come to understand. But thank you for the insight. Perhaps I'll add/remove some cards to change it around a bit more.

July 26, 2016 4:54 p.m.

Lilbrudder says... #23

July 28, 2016 10:16 a.m.

Yeah I'll be grabbing one of those this week. Much less mana intensive than Silence the Believers

July 28, 2016 6:21 p.m.

Oh and I need something to sideboard for Contamination. Since I play against a lot of casual/inexperienced players, that card won't be played. Any ideas?

July 28, 2016 6:22 p.m.

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