Green White Hardened Scales

Standard meddler91

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First Playtests —Aug. 21, 2015

I finally acquired all the cards I needed for this deck. I played very well against a mono red aggro but struggled against Abzan in some casual playtests.

polity4life says... #1

I ran a similar deck and persistently faced problems with protecting my creatures from removal and removing permanents that my creatures couldn't handle.

To solve these problems, I splashed black to almost exclusively add better removal into the deck. It also gave me the chance to add Anafenza, the Foremost who is a nice buffer, has great power/toughness for the mana cost, and seems to routinely eat removal from my opponents, and Abzan Charm which offers either a nice counter-adding synergy or another removal source.

In my experience these decks are too slow to be truly aggro but struggle in the midrange once removal deprived me of my built-up big guys. That's where spells like Feat of Resistance and Enshrouding Mist to keep my creatures with lots of counters alive so they can keep swinging.

Here is my deck if you're interested in viewing it: Abzan Midrange with counters (Open to Changes). I have to update it again since I came into a bevvy of great cards to add into the main deck (Windswept Heath and Collected Company) and my sideboard (Ultimate Price, Radiant Purge).

August 20, 2015 11:02 a.m.
August 20, 2015 11:28 a.m.

meddler91 says... #3

Thanks for the tips. I have been considering splashing black for removal. I'll have to play with it and see how it plays. Also, I actually had Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit in an early version of the deck but it didn't end up seeing much utility in the games I was playing but I'll have to keep it in mind and see if I can make it work.

August 20, 2015 11:49 a.m.

I used to have a similar list with Abzan colors, and I might have a few other ideas. If you struggle with mana, I've tried Ainok Guide as something out of left field. Early on he helps you get out lands, but later when you don't need them he can be a 2/2 flyer for 2 with a Falconer out. If you need artifact removal you can use Ainok Survivalist; it's a little slower, but it fits the theme. Daghatar the Adamant is a curve-topper that can make some cheeky plays if you have the mana. Dragonscale General is another curve-topper that can keep all your creatures relevant. For answers to removal, try Feat of Resistance. Finally, Hooded Hydra is a great mana sink for later on.

August 20, 2015 12:01 p.m.

meddler91 says... #5

I've played with Dragonscale General and Hooded Hydra, I actually put Hangarback Walker in place of Hooded Hydra because you can pump it up. I recently aquired the Windswept Heaths so if those don't fix my mana woes I will look into Ainok Guide.

I just have to say: This is the first time putting a deck on here (or online at all) and it's great to have people to bounce ideas off of. :)

August 20, 2015 12:14 p.m.

KarmaWG says... #6

August 20, 2015 1:08 p.m.

polity4life says... #7

Murder Investigation really pairs well with Hangarback Walker or Hooded Hydra; on death you have two sources of fast creature generation that makes your next turn hard for opponents to handle. This also gives Dragonscale General a lot more value but it is a fairly slow set up. I've had some success running it with a Managorger Hydra since that creature doesn't require as much mana from me to pump up.

An alternative to Ainok Guide is Map the Wastes. It's a bit expensive and you don't gain the mana that turn but still has value even later in the game in that it gives a +1/+1 counter and removes land from your deck so you aren't drawing it when you need a trick or a creature to seal the game.

August 20, 2015 1:13 p.m.

Phazon says... #8

Check my build out. Green White Counters

I think there's some things you might have overlooked in this deck. Mainly Gleam of Authority. Mistcutter Hydra and Ordeal of Heliod are also great additions. Inspiring Call can also generate card advantage as well as saving your guys. I side in Gods Willing against burn.

August 20, 2015 2:44 p.m.

Honest says... #9

Hi, I run a similar G/W Counter deck. From my experience with my deck and looking at yours, I'll give you some input on the side deck, the maybe board and suggest some cards.

Sidedeck: I personally hate every card in it except Tragic Arrogance, Valorous Stance and Dragonlord Dromoka

Evolutionary Leap: This isn't really a card you want to play, looking at it, if you're thinking what I think your thinking I'd go with Scourge of Skola Vale instead.

Surrak, the hunt caller seems nice but I'd say 9/10 games the game is over before you play him and I feel like having him wouldn't benefit you that much. Removal would be better to draw than him.

Plummet: Not sure why this is here, if you're up againt a flyer with under 4 power that is annoying you, you can kill it with dromoka's command and one of your creatures, if you're up against a flyer with over 4 power you got Valorous Stance and Hidden Dragonslayer. This card just seems like too niche a removal when your deck has answers already.

Surge of Righteousness: Once again this seems too niche, not only does it have to be attacking or blocking it also has to be red or black. I'd go with Swift Reckoning if you really want removal of that type or even Celestial Flare, but honestly I'd recommend none of them.

Recommendations:Creatures: Scourge of Skola Vale is a great way to pop hangarback if need be, and to keep counters in play if someone goes to kill a creature by saccing it to Skola to get more counters, I haven't tested him in my deck but I'm thinking about testing him and he looks like he'd work even better in your deck than mine.Fleecemane Lion is a great 2 drop and if he lives to turn 5 he becomes a solid target for buffing as he is very hard to remove at that point, I run him in my deck instead of hangarback because I don't want to pay for 4 hangarbacksReverent Hunter is nice potential 3 drop but with your morphs, hydra and skola I'd avoid him. I'm basically only suggesting him so you know he exists.

Protection:Gather Courage Basically a clutch card vs RDW you can play creatures on curve and expect them to survive a turn.Gods Willing: save my poor hydra for 1 mana, giving him a +1 counter and let me scry, sure. Its a better early game card than feat of resistance but if you have scales on board feat is better. In a situation where keeping one creature alive is key having both options is great.

Buffing:Solidarity of Heroes I have yet to test out this card myself but in a deck where you're just trying to put counters on creatures why not have a card that lets you double the work you've done for 2 mana per creatureAjani Steadfast: He is $5 but at the same time you'll probably only want 1 or 2 of him. I too run abzan falconer in my main deck and I run this guy in my side deck. Why? Well if I'm in a match where I have one creature and want to stay strong with just that one I can give him lifelink, vigilance and first strike or in a match where I can get some board presence, its +1 counters for all.

Removal: Back to Nature: Want to make decks that focus on enchantments hate you? Sideboard this. You have Dromoka's Command to get rid a single enchantment but if you're up against something that is running multiple enchantments or just struggling to gain ground this is the card to play. In all my games this card has helped me way more than it has hurt me when I've sided it in.

Maybeboard:I kind of spent more time writing this up than I wanted to so I'm going to make this short,Main deck Feat of Resistance.

I hoped this helped you out some and if you want any more input I'll be glad to help once I get more time. If you want here is my deck http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/going-plus-early-range/, you can compare our decks and see what you want to do different than mine and what they actually do different and maybe that will help you in making improvements to your own.

August 20, 2015 3:39 p.m.

meddler91 says... #10

Oh man Honest thanks for taking the time to type all that up! I'm looking into some of that right now. Thanks!

August 20, 2015 4:06 p.m.