hero's sword seems more necessary in this build
mana echoes needs to be revisited, depending on what the creature types look like
March 1, 2017 4:27 p.m.
I'm wondering if the goblins are worth it at all (except the real utility ones).
Do I want to pay 3 for a goblin king? or just go for grenzo? I should add the creatures I think are good enough and see
March 1, 2017 4:31 p.m.
imperial recruiter lets me get answers... they'll be expensive to cast, but it's probably worth it (artifact destruction, land destruction, etc)
March 1, 2017 4:35 p.m.
It could get duplicant, for example, to get a black creature...
March 1, 2017 4:38 p.m.
So, I think the tack we take is imperial recruiter, and then leave just enough utility creatures... so avalanche riders, nekrataal, and tuk tuk, so that I can remove shit if necessary?
March 2, 2017 10:56 a.m.
I don't think clone shell is good enough... that could be a mistake!
March 2, 2017 11:25 a.m.
oof, damnation out, but I feel like if I have to cast it I have lost.
March 2, 2017 11:32 a.m.
Consider taking Reito lantern out for... a land? Another creature?
March 4, 2017 12:02 a.m.
Possessed barbarian seems strong. 4/4 first strike with Saskia killing. But go through them all...
March 4, 2017 12:04 a.m.
The ETB creature sacs are good. Probably take out one of the ETB destroy non blacks and reito lantern
I continue to want posessed barbarian.
March 4, 2017 9:46 a.m.
I think the ETB sacs are quite good, actually... they affect everyone, and they can come back, and will never get mine.
OUT
Reito Lantern
Dakmor Lancer
IN
Fleshbag Marauder
Merciless Executioner
March 4, 2017 1:46 p.m.
goblin welder seems pretty important... it can trade an artifact in play with one that gets dumped (crucible, soldevi digger).
I also think the tarnished citadel will be useful
IN
tarnished citadel
goblin welder
OUT
swiftfoot boots (the mana cost is too expensive, need it to be a viable T2 drop)
crypt ghast (seems way, way too situational)
March 4, 2017 9:52 p.m.
imperial seal is actually pretty good in the deck... since there is so little draw/tutor, being able to go even jsut get a mana crypt for early ramp/grenzo activations is quite strong
March 4, 2017 10:01 p.m.
Ok, so the thought is...
OUT
swamp
rakdos charm
IN
imperial seal
bojuka bog
yes, we lose the charm, but we do have more artifact d than before and the imperial recriuter and tutor to get them, and we can tutor for the bojuka bog
March 4, 2017 10:03 p.m.
Heh, consider simian spirit guide... it could give me grenzo a turn earlier, and at least it is a creature.
March 4, 2017 10:14 p.m.
Ok, so, there are 3 cards I really like. Something I need to sort of think about/deal with is the fact that the creatures in my hand will often sit there, as I'll prefer to activate grenzo. Thus, I'm underutilizing that.
- Liliana, Heretical Healer
This seems really great... can bring back important stuff, and also discard (which hurts me less than others, generally)
- Skirge familiar
Let's me use my hand as a resource to ramp, AND let's me discard a beater so that it can be put under the library and cast!
- Simian Spirit Guide
Let's me ramp
I think the first two are very much worth testing.
March 5, 2017 12:52 a.m.
OUT
dark hatchling (seems expensive, and I think duplicant and bone shredder cover most of my cases -- and are imperial recruiterable -- as do the sac dudes)
crystal ball (I just never want to cast it... I feel like I'd rather have clone shell or even the lantern)
IN
Liliana, Heretical Healer
Skirge familiar
At what point do I not have enough artifacts to support the goblin welder? Will see in practice (esp see if it is hateful against opponents)
March 5, 2017 1:03 a.m.
There is a general open question though: are there other creatures that can make use of my hand? Either by hosing others more than it hoses me to discard, or effect like skirge familiar's?
March 5, 2017 1:15 a.m.
Interesting draw card:- the dark ritual guy- mad prophet (discard to draw)
My fear is anything tap based is too slow. At least skirge is still a 3/2 flyer!
Notorious assasin is getting closer... THAT could be tech.
Need to see how it works out in practice. Thus far mad prophet seems the most interesting to me!
March 5, 2017 1:20 a.m.
I feel like xiahou dun is not long for the world. I don't know if he is better than the above. We've eliminated black cards and added tutors, delver seems strictly better!
jco says... #1
March 1, 2017 4:22 p.m.