I don't run any wincons

Commander / EDH* ThoAlmighty

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venok says... #1

Corrupted Conscience instead of " in bolas clutches

June 4, 2018 3:15 p.m.

RedGriffin42 says... #2

Grixis control that steals opponents cards to be used against them? I see you are a person of refined taste as well. I have a similar deck based around the same theme. I have many questions about what you have found works, and comments about things you might like to try out. Take a look at my deck and send me a message if you are interested in talking shop!

Great deck! +1 from me!

June 4, 2018 3:37 p.m.

ThoAlmighty says... #3

@venok: I run In Bolas's Clutches for the flavor and versatility. Stealing planeswalkers that are ready to ult is nice. I also tried to avoid a lot of steal cards, mustly just copy and play stuff from library/graveyards so it's more fun to play against.

June 4, 2018 4:30 p.m.

Ginray72 says... #4

What about Etali, Primal Storm?

June 6, 2018 1:06 a.m.

Hardhitta7 says... #5

Cruel Ultimatum is pretty good flavor wise, the one with Bolas in the art.

June 6, 2018 7:59 p.m.

ThoAlmighty says... #6

I used to run Cruel Ultimatum, and casting it off Jeleva felt great, but after casting it turn three a few times I took it out because it wasn't fun to play against. (sol ring into either boots into Jeleva)

June 6, 2018 9:50 p.m.

Hardhitta7 says... #7

Oh yeah, that would be a beating for sure. I can see how it wouldn’t be fun.

June 6, 2018 9:57 p.m.

ThoAlmighty says... #8

I'm a definitely a more casual player. If someone wanted to make the deck more competitive they would probably want to add stuff like that, and bump up the budget a bit. Another nice thing about it is that the games vary not just because it's singleton, but also because I play with different people. It keeps it fresh and a lot of fun.

June 6, 2018 11:09 p.m. Edited.

apreya says... #9

Really like this deck, thanks for sharing!

June 7, 2018 8:22 a.m.

11WolfenE says... #10

Ever thought of Mirage Mirror?

June 7, 2018 1:17 p.m.

Ginray72 says... #11

Oh heck yeah, Mirage Mirror and Etali, Primal Storm should totally be in this deck.

June 7, 2018 2:04 p.m.

ThoAlmighty says... #12

Mirage Mirror is good, I didn't think of that. I'm not wild about Etali though, as he's slow and only gets one random card off of each opponent. I like Stolen Strategy a lot more, because even though I have to pay the mana costs I can cast them whenever and isn't as vulnerable to sweepers and removal.

June 7, 2018 4:09 p.m.

11WolfenE says... #13

Also, if you're playing Grixis, maybe think about Mairsil, the Pretender - he's just so cool, although, it might require changing the direction of the deck a bit, or he can just copy the abilities of one of your clones.

June 8, 2018 2:04 a.m.

ThoAlmighty says... #14

Nah, I don't think he's worth it. He's a sweet card, but someone in my playgroup already has a Mairsil deck and I'd like to stick with the theme of this one. Also, most of my things don't have activated abilities. He requires a full build-around, not a casual taking of the helm. Thanks for the suggestion though.

June 10, 2018 11:59 a.m.

MoronPlayz says... #15

Maybe some enchantment removals like Chaos Warp or Nevinyrral's Disk would be Good?

June 11, 2018 5:54 a.m.

ThoAlmighty says... #16

I used to run disk but both often did me more harm than good. My deck is pretty reliant on mana rocks and boardstate. If necessary I can use cards like Psychic Intrusion, Memory Plunder, and so on to cast a white or green deck's removal.

June 12, 2018 6:05 p.m.

kellen.rice says... #17

What do you mean no wincons, Jeleva is a 20 turn clock

October 31, 2018 12:47 a.m.

ThoAlmighty says... #18

@kellen.rice: I've seen someone killed by Thrasios commander damage. Granted, I was buffing it with Duelist's Heritage but it was still pretty great. I'm thinking of putting Hatred in. It won't win me a game, but knock a player out for sure.

October 31, 2018 10:31 a.m.

Wunarg says... #19

Hmm Chaos Wand for repeadatly stealing, Order of Succession for when your loosing.

If you wanna be really evil Worst Fears Aura Thief or ,even though its not that stealy, Curse of the Cabal note how that one says permanents not non land permanents and make em do all the politics.

November 13, 2018 3:33 a.m.

jaymc1130 says... #20

Twilight Prophet is a win condition in and of itself.

I am mighty disappointed.

November 20, 2018 2:33 p.m.

Epicurus says... #22

I like this theme. There's a few of my favorite additions missing from your list, though, so I'll just drop them here...

Also, Telemin Performance is a card I really wish was good, and tend to run it even though it isn't, and Knowledge Exploitation is one of my absolute favorites, but probably wouldn't work for you because you don't have nearly enough Rogues to cast it for its prowl cost.

Furthermore, I've seen in the comments that you don't like to run cards that steal stuff because it makes hurt feels, but it's worth mentioning that Treachery is, in my opinion, seriously undervalued.

I'm not good at suggesting cuts, but just wanted to enter my two cents. Cheers!

September 4, 2021 8:31 p.m.

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