Looking for more good Gruul alternative win-conditions!

What about Helix Pinnacle ?

Helix Pinnacle seems to show its value in Simic but not as much in Gruul.

Still worth keeping in mind, however.

Thanks!

Some good sorcery kills can be achieved with -

Basalt Monolith + Rings of Brighthearth

and

Fireball , Comet Storm , or Fall of the Titans

And if you're going to include these X kills, then yes, you should include Helix Pinnacle .

Here's a reference to some colorless combos - Kozilek, Master of Cake.

Completed.

Here's a reference to some colorless combos - Kozilek, Master of Cake.

Coming up with a stax ban list. First pass -

Dream Tides Energy Flux Invoke Prejudice Mudslide Nether Void War Tax Contamination Death Cloud Dictate of Erebos Grave Pact Sheoldred, Whispering One Tainted AEther Decree of Annihilation Martyr's Bond Smokestack Razia's Purification Null Rod Stony Silence Words of Wind Creeping Dread Embargo Manabarbs Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker Painful Quandary Pestilence Pestilence Demon Pyrohemia Jace, Unraveler of Secrets Gaddock Teeg Iona, Shield of Emeria Kaervek the Merciless Void Winnower Ward of Bones Catastrophe Jokulhaups Lethal Vapors Dueling Grounds Ensnaring Bridge Silent Arbiter Leovold, Emissary of Trest Back to Basics Freyalise's Winds Hokori, Dust Drinker Mist of Stagnation Rising Waters Stasis Static Orb Tangle Wire Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger Winter Orb Blood Moon Destructive Flow Equipoise Helldozer Land Equilibrium Magus of the Moon Mana Vortex Ruination Bottomless Pit Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur Mind Slash Necrogen Mists Oppression Words of Waste Cursed Totem Hushwing Gryff Linvala, Keeper of Silence Portcullis Torpor Orb Ravages of War Armageddon Wildfire

Second pass -

Nether Void Contamination Death Cloud Dictate of Erebos Grave Pact Sheoldred, Whispering One Tainted AEther Martyr's Bond Smokestack Stony Silence Words of Wind Embargo Painful Quandary Pestilence Pestilence Demon Pyrohemia Erayo, Soratami Ascendant Jace, Unraveler of Secrets Iona, Shield of Emeria Ward of Bones Ensnaring Bridge Silent Arbiter Leovold, Emissary of Trest Back to Basics Hokori, Dust Drinker Mist of Stagnation Rising Waters Stasis Static Orb Tangle Wire Winter Orb Blood Moon Destructive Flow Equipoise Land Equilibrium Magus of the Moon Mana Vortex Bottomless Pit Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur Mind Slash Oppression Cursed Totem Portcullis

third pass -

• Nether Void
• Contamination
• Dictate of Erebos
• Grave Pact
• Martyr's Bond
• Smokestack
• Stony Silence
• Embargo
• Pestilence
• Pestilence Demon
• Erayo, Soratami Ascendant
• Iona, Shield of Emeria
• Ward of Bones
• Ensnaring Bridge
• Leovold, Emissary of Trest
• Back to Basics
• Hokori, Dust Drinker
• Mist of Stagnation
• Rising Waters
• Stasis
• Static Orb
• Tangle Wire
• Winter Orb
• Blood Moon
• Destructive Flow
• Equipoise
• Land Equilibrium
• Magus of the Moon
• Mana Vortex
• Bottomless Pit
• Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur
• Portcullis

fourth pass -

• Back to Basics
• Blood Moon
• Bottomless Pit
• Contamination
• Destructive Flow
• Dictate of Erebos
• Embargo
• Ensnaring Bridge
• Equipoise
• Erayo, Soratami Ascendant
• Grave Pact
• Hokori, Dust Drinker
• Land Equilibrium
• Leovold, Emissary of Trest
• Magus of the Moon
• Mana Vortex
• Mist of Stagnation
• Nether Void
• Pestilence
• Portcullis
• Rising Waters
• Smokestack
• Stasis
• Static Orb
• Stony Silence
• Tangle Wire
• Winter Orb

Force of vigor is good anti-stax here.

It doesn't win the game, but this combo nets you infinite colored mana most of the time -

Dockside Extortionist + Temur Sabertooth

And there's also the cheaper Cloudstone Curio + Dockside Extortionist combo.

Another combo found is Argothian Elder + Wirewood Lodge .

Add Summoner's Pact .