Argeaux,
Thanks tons for all the playtestsing; such a bummer that IE locked up on you on game 2! Especially thanks for the ""should have mulliganed" info!

I like the combination of Cryptolith Rite - tap all creatures for mana, then Vines of Recluse on Zada, Hedron Grinder, then Might of the Masses on Zada. This does, however seem to be a late-game play, with little early-game strength. I would consider sacrificing 1 or 2 Expedite for extra Ember-Eye Wolf or Lambholt Pacifist  ^Flip

Make that Vines of the Recluse

Murphy77,
I love the combo too; thanks!

If that card swap works for you, cool. That's more Creatures and much less draw than I prefer though.

Im modifying my own deck a bit, would you mind telling me why you chose Surge of adrenaline over Howlpack Resurgence?

Sethlord,
Sure! Howlpack Resurgence is a great card for Midrange decks but this is an Aggro build, so 3-drop slots are few and therefore precious. Also, since this deck is all about abusing Silverfur Partisan + Zada, Hedron Grinder , I'll take an Instant pump over an Enchantment pump any day.

I vote in Vessel of Nascency. It's good digging and delirium if you need it, great for picking out the combo piece creatures when your hand is full of boost spells.

NotSquishedYet,
I think you meant to post that over on All things Wolven.

I love Vessel of Nascency in Limited, to enable Delirium. And though I generally like Duskwatch Recruiter  ^Flip better, I could imagine some Midrange Wolf decks might want the Vessel instead. But because it doesn't immediately affect the board, I believe it's generally a bad fit for an Aggro deck. Especially one like this that doesn't have any Delirium effects, lol!

Thanks though!

I did mean it here, but you've got a good point that it should go there. I'll get it up.

Having tested both, the Recruiter is just slow, awkward, and can't dig for the right things. In limited, Vessel of Nascency was so good that I want at least a playset. The dealbreaker for it is that it can correct mana in a bad spot, and it can fetch Arlinn or dig for threats. I only had one copy of each it and Arlinn in the prerelease, and the Vessel won two matches by getting her out on a perfect curve.

In my playtests of this, it runs out of fuel early and against things like Reflector Mage because the curve is too low to the ground. It feels like you need to move away from Lightning Berserker and Ember-Eye Wolf, raising the curve for wolven powerhouses, because the deck just can't compete with a threat like Woodland Wanderer for 3 if it gets online.

NotSquishedYet,
Good point on Vessel of Nascency's ability to dig for manafixing too.

You're totally right about running out of fuel early (though I actually disagree on not being able to handle Woodland Wanderer ... especially since the days of pretty much everyone and their dog being able to Converge for 3 are pretty much over), but I am frankly extremely hesitant to slow the deck down even a little. I am increasingly unsure that Midrange Wolves are going to be powerful enough to compete. Maybe in a CoCo shell, but 4x CoCo + 2x Arlinn is just a bridge to far ATM. And though I'm sure I could get Wolven RG Ramp to work, it just doesn't excite me. So more and more I'm looking to speed as the path to victory for this deck.

All that said, I'll give it a try. I used and saw it used almost exclusively as a Delirium enabler over the weekend, so I'm having a hard time imagining the rest of its potential. But I'll check it out.

Thanks then, especially for the re-attack!

Good to know it helps. I always like that challenge of change, when my decks haven't flexed hard enough in a while.

*Evil, maniacal laugh... Friend, I think I have your worst enemy in my pocket.* I've made a lot of changes to my Bant deck, and it's becoming quite the monstrosity.

I was looking to figure out what could help for Cryptolith Rite since it didn't seem necessary with what looked to be such a low curve. Have you considered running Westvale Abbey  ^Flip with it? If you even have one in play with the rites on the field it would make an opponent hesitate before a full board wipe when you could respond by tapping your creatures for mana and sacking them to flip abbey. Not sure how common a full board wipe is going to be in standard.

That's right... The Rite has those higher cost creatures covered, even though it's an aggro deck. Especially Anthem ones, if you can find them. The Abbey is an interesting thought, to be sure.

Whitenickel,
Cryptolith Rite is not about ramping to big stuff, it's about accelerating the small stuff. Getting one out on Turn 2 + Lands can easily yield 5-6 mana on Turn 3 (I think it can yield 8, but I've never played that).

Short story: Yes, I ran Westvale Abbey  ^Flip as a 2-of in the earliest version of the deck (it's on Full Maybeboard for Gruul Wolves (SOI Full Aggro) as a 2 (out of 5). I think the card is fun but VERY weak in anything but a Control deck.

Long story: When ahead, the 5 Creatures are almost always better employed smashing on my opponent's board or face. And when behind, the Transform cost is between painful and impossible. On top of that, the card has to be played late-game (else my opponent just hoards quality removal), so I found it a dead card in my hard way too often. And of course Ormendahl will soak up removal like a sponge ... I think the only way around that in Gruul colors is to play something like Dragonmaster Outcast the turn before playing the Abbey, forcing the opponent to use up their removal and clearing the way to cast Westvale Abbey  ^Flip, sac' Creatures, and Transform. That's just WAY too much hassle for an alt-wincon! :-)

Thanks much though, and draw well!

Clip Wings in the side for fliers like avacyn etc.

I completely concur with Westvale Abbey  ^Flip working best in Control.

I have ended up putting two back in my deck, purely as a way to make chump blockers in the late game.

They aren't right for this build, IMO.

addaff,
We'll see how the meta shakes out, but for now I think I'm good with Vines of the Recluse on the main board. If I need more Flyerhate, I generally like spells like Tears of Valakut better.

Thanks though!

I'm not a standard player at all so I have absolutely no clue want the standard format looks like and haven't even looked. I'm thinking about making R/G wolves since i managed to pull 2 Arlinn Kord  ^Flip & a Game Trail in the 2 events I played in. I do believe B/R madness vamps will be a thing. If that is the case then Dual Shot is something to look in to. Madness also limits the power of arlinn. Turn 4 make a wolf to flip her with 3 loyalty screams a Fiery Tempered blowout.

So that kinda pushes me towards orhov/esper control or even junk investigation

Hi clayperce ! I notice Tears of Valakut is gone, replaced by Burn from Within...is this per chance because of Westvale Abbey  ^Flip? i've seen so many people buying this card so... its gonna be played. It costs more but at least we can actually remove it because it removed indestructible -- am i right?

oh! congrats on breaking 100 up votes!

addaff,
Here are some threads on the subject. Best of luck (and skill) to you!

Kizmetto,
Tears of Valakut has been gone for a while now (I think I shifted it out back when I decided to mainboard my Flyerhate) and I've been running Exquisite Firecraft in that slot. I really like Firecraft, but I recently swapped to Burn from Within. Frankly, I'm not worried about Westvale Abbey  ^Flip at all. But big Eldrazi, Angels, Dragonlords, and Planeswalkers? I like what Burn from Within can do to them, for sure!

Thanks much, to you both!

In every generation there is a chosen one. She alone will stand against the vampires the demons and the forces of darkness. She is the slayer.

Oops, sorry, wrong franchise.

In every generation there is a chosen one. She alone will stand against the vampires the demons and the forces of darkness. She is the that deals damage to target Creature or Player.

Last time we had Crater's Claws. This time it's Burn from Within.

Have you thought about a couple copies of Swell of Growth?

addaff,
Yeah Swell of Growth can be pretty spectacular, especially after a big Expedite draw. But for this deck I found it was kind of laying a combo on top of a combo, which was just a little too fragile/inconsistent for my tastes.

What about instead of Lambholt Pacifist  ^Flip you put in Timberpack Wolf