I'm a fan of Chief Engineer in this deck. Probably should have it as a 2 of instead of Illusory Angel .

This is also a deck that is built for rotation, so keep in mind Detention Sphere and Supreme Verdict AND Sphinx's Revelation will not be around when this deck is played. So what are control players going to replace D-Sphere with? Banishing Light . Supreme Verdict ? Probably yet to be determined... You're also talking like Stormbreath's pro-white is not even in the equation. That protection goes a looong way in the format. Now I agree if you're at 7 mana to be able to activate Monstrous and you haven't won yet, something is indeed wrong. But what if you ARE at 7 mana against a slow control deck that hasn't hit their bomb yet? I have to believe it would be better to have that option of activating Monstrous and potentially winning the game from it, rather than dropping another 4/4 Flying that does nothing until next turn because there's no way your opponent let your Generator Servant live to give anybody Haste, especially not after you do that in game 1. This is taking into consideration that control decks seem like they will slow down significantly after rotation (barring some replacements in Khans which they will ofc have, but we can't prepare for what we don't know), so reaching 7 mana may not be so far-fetched come October rotation. Look, we both have our opinions on the two dragons, but I say we just let UpperDeckerTaco try them both and see which works better for him. You obviously are an experienced Magic player who knows what he's talking about, but so am I and it really boils down to the fact that you don't see Banishing Light , yet I see it easily 3 out of every 5 matchups. So our meta game is different, as is everyone's, and Hoarding Dragon could quite possibly work better for both of you. I just know for me Stormbreath Dragon would fit better based on the matchups I get. And like I said, they run Banishing Light a lot now, but it's going to be everywhere when Detention Sphere is gone.

JexInfinite I took out my Chief Engineer 's because it slowed down the deck. There is only 4 cards in the deck that it would help which isn't great odds. While Generator Servant can help any card in the deck barring it actually costs mana to cast. But thanks for the input. I'm thinking of making an all artifact blue deck to utilize the Chief Engineer .

Xenoither and CrovaxTheCursed: I personally like the Stormbreath Dragon more than the Hoarding Dragon . It just fits better in my opinion. But thanks for the discussion, I would not have probably even thought of that possibility

Nice take on arty U/R! +1

It seems like you have a lot of artifacts, so it's going to be a bit difficult to get the devotion for Keranos, God of Storms (especially since Generator Servant exists to be sacrificed). I agree that Stormbreath Dragon is a great card in this deck, but Hoarding Dragon would be great too. Perhaps replace Keranos, God of Storms with it?

Programmer_112 Thanks for the input! Keranos, God of Storms isn't in the deck to get devotion, he's for my direct damage and card draw, and if he becomes a creature, great. But he's merely there to combo with Thassa, God of the Sea for card draw or that free 3 damage. Yes, Hoarding Dragon might be a great card, but Scuttling Doom Engine would be the card to tutor for, but then again, if I exile it, then the Hoarding Dragon gets exiled, I just lost two creatures for nothing. And I run 4 Scuttling Doom Engine for frequency of drawing them. But they are also not my only win-con.

I Actually built a very similar deck but without Keranos, God of Storms Anger of the Gods Swan Song Springleaf Drum

I do have some questions though if you could clear then up for me. Why do you include springleaf drum?Why include anger of the gods in main I can only think about a few situations it would be useful in like against slowing down mono green devotion by killing their Sylvan Caryatid

Most of his creatures are out of reach of Anger of the Gods . It only kills his Generator Servant (probably been sacrificed by this point) and Ornithopter (which will probably be a 5/5, or fodder for Shrapnel Blast ). Anger is actually a great fit for this deck. As you said, it can be used to wreck a field full of Elvish Mystic and Sylvan Caryatid , or a field full of weenies.

Couldn't you make Anger of the Gods a sideboard card though because very few people run creature heavy decks because of the huge amount of removal and you won't be playing against mono green devotion too terribly often.

That would depend on each person's metagame. For instance, it's either black or white with the decks I face. What I mean by that is, I either see all out aggro, or all out control to where the only creatures are Elspeth tokens and a singleton AEtherling . But mainly it's aggro decks I see (MUD, Mono Red, Boros aggro, etc). I'm guessing since Anger is in the mainboard, he sees a lot of aggro himself. If it does get to the point where you're seeing mostly control, maybe swap 2 Dissolve in the side for the 2 Angers. With that cold swap there, you're pretty much set for any Standard Archetype.

I see your point skozzkozz and it is valid, Anger of the Gods is main board right now due to the reasoning behind CrovaxTheCursed explained. I see more aggro creature heavy decks in my meta. Sometimes I see Simic control (Sylvan Caryatid , Elvish Mystic , Prophet of Kruphix ) and also Rakdos aggro (Minotaurs, which for the most part are all 2/3 creatures). So I feel it is needed in the main unless I play maybe, mono-black or mono-blue devotion decks. It works great against Heroic Azorius decks, which I've run up against from time to time. If I need to swap them out, I would either swap in the 2 Dissolve like previously suggested, or go for somewhat of control using Phyrexian Revoker . Good talk though, I had debated on main boarding it for the longest time, and actually side boarded 2 Magma Jet for it. The Magma Jet helped yes, but with my past experiences, in my meta, 4 Lightning Strike and a much needed 1-2 Anger of the Gods .

As for the Springleaf Drum , in previous tournaments, I had no consistency as to where I was able to draw into the land I needed, so these drums help provide mana, and also act as another target for Shrapnel Blast (1 drop + 2 drop = 5 damage? Uh yeah) and for also Ensoul Artifact (1 drop and 2 drop for a 5/5 creature? You betcha!). This just helps me get that 5/5 attacking creature on Turn 2 probability up drastically. Also, Generator Servant might get targeted a bit for quick removal, so the drum helps ensure I have that 1 more mana needed on the board to either drop a Stormbreath Dragon , Keranos, God of Storms , or Scuttling Doom Engine . If you guys have any more ideas, I would gladly take all suggestions into consideration and I love a good debate. Thanks guys!

Oh okay where I play it's all u/w control and mono green devotion , I was not aware that people played decks that weren't always getting top 8.XD

CrovaxTheCursed since you seem to be on the same wavelength as me for this deck, do you think this deck could do with 1 or 2 Chandra, Pyromaster or no? I am stuck on this one, because on the one hand, it could help, on the other, it could be a waste. What's your 2 cents? And anyone else who views this, what do you think?

I actually put 2 Jace, the Living Guildpact in my side board but I never thought about chandra I mean It could be nice you know because of that awesome +0 ability she's got going on.

Hmm, Chandra is an interesting thought for this deck. She could be used to clear a problem blocker which is nice, and also with all the burn her 0 ability could prove useful. But I'd hate to see you exile a Doom Engine (or Swan Song) and not have the mana to cast it... OUCH. Although it could potentially work if you timed a scry land drop just right. I feel like she would require too much dedication to make her work properly (she seems best in mono red aggro/burn with all three and lower drops). I actually like the suggestion of the new Jace, which actually would help Chandra's 0 ability. But his ultimate is easy to hit and can be game changing to say the least. Maybe worth a playtest with both to see which works better.

well actually.. you have a possible T2 dark steel citadel swinging for 5.The Scenario:T1: Darksteel Citadel, Ornithopter, and Springleaf Drum T2: Island, (using ornithopter and springleaf drum as your third land) Ensoul Artifact on Darksteel Citadel. Attacking on T2 with an indestructible 5/5

jericko101 you are exactly correct, I must have missed that. Thanks!

CrovaxTheCursed and skozzkozz - Now looking at Jace, the Living Guildpact more closely, I do like what he's got going on. Only thing is, what gets replaced for him and I'm thinking he's a "2 of" type card for the deck???

Hmmm I'm thinking if you want to have Jace, the Living Guildpact in main board you could replace Keranos, God of Storms and for sideboard he could replace Circle of Flame ? Maybe.....

Excuse my bad grammer

I'd replace Keranos, God of Storms with Jace, the Living Guildpact . Keranos seems slow and will rarely be a creature which means you aren't getting full value.

Dude I don't think you should include Flame-Wreathed Phoenix it's just a bad card.

skozzkozz what would be your suggestion for a good low costing flying creature then? I want something that can give variation between my big ground guys and have some aerial assault.

Illusory Angel is pretty nice

@skozzkozz It is, but it comes out on average, turn 5.

Well I guess Gold-Forged Sentinel because you can console him out but you know whispers he's kinda bad.