*convoke

skozzkozz You know, it wouldn't be too bad of a card if it maybe cost 5 to play or even if it still cost 6, it had another ability as well.

skozzkozz What's your opinion on Arbiter of the Ideal because it could allow me to bring in things for free each turn, only 10 cards, Ensoul Artifact , Shrapnel Blast , Crypsis , are the ones that would not be able to be put into play for free.

Hmm arbiter of the ideal he seems pretty nice but I'd probably put him in as a 1 of MAYBE 2 of.On the other hand he may just slow the deck down because of his mana cost all i can suggest is play test with him and see how it goes.

CrovaxTheCursed please take a look again at this deck and let me know what you think of the drastic changes. Did I go in the wrong direction do you think? Or is the direction I went on ok, it's just different? And any advice you may have. Thank you.

Hoo-wee! That is certainly different. I do like it though, and I feel like it's a step in the right direction. I'm liking the inclusion of Crypsis , most people don't ever see that coming lol. I also like the Curse of the Swine in the mainboard, since it's almost always useful in the meta. The one thing I do not like is the Arbiter of the Ideal . A great card, don't get me wrong, but seems way too slow for THIS deck. If you could Convoke it out, I'd say absolutely, but the fact that you MUST wait until turn 6 to cast it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. You should be very close to winning by turn 6, if not already, and I don't see Arbiter being that guy that gets the last bit through. To me, Keranos in that spot does way more for you in terms of advantage. He costs one less for one thing, but he also gives you a free Bolt or free card every turn! C'mon, man!! Don't listen to those that say "aww, well he won't be a creature so you won't get full value" ::makes fart noises::. Dude, a 5cmc enchantment that lets you draw or Bolt every turn is well worth it, believe me. Not to mention that with the new additions, you're much closer to achieving devotion requirements so the angle of him being a creature is now a possibility again. All in all, I love the new list and believe you're well upon the path of righteousness! Oh and btw, Colossus of Akros , f*ckin hilarious dude, I love it. XD I also love the new deck name!

Also, I just wanted to say, Flame-Wreathed Phoenix is not a bad card. Sure, it's not a GREAT card, but it's not downright bad. I hate giving the opponent a choice in any circumstance, but I'd make an exception for this dude simply because, unlike the rest of the Tribute cards, both choices are really great for 4 mana. Plus, and this is just something I've noticed playing the card myself, he can actually sort-of "tell" you what's in your opponent's hand. For instance, if they pay Tribute, 99.9% of the time, they have a kill spell in hand for it. If they don't pay tribute, they probably have something like Anger of the Gods or a blocker that would effectively negate the Phoenix's attack (e.g. Hover Barrier or Wall of Swords ). So he can kind of gauge what your opponent might be holding out on you, and believe me as soon as this guy hits the field, you'll know what they're holding back. He's just another one of those must-answer cards. Anyway, that's just my thoughts on the only Tribute card I would ever consider bringing to an FNM.

Awesome advice CrovaxTheCursed, the reason the Arbiter is in there is so possibly get him out turn 4 with generator servant and it works well with crypsis. I am getting the notion that it is slow though. You think 2 keranos? And do you like the Stormbreath in side board until the correct situation arises? And colossus is one of those surprises that could possibly be a turn 4 drop, and turn 6 monstrous.

CrovaxTheCursed call me crazy but you're about to see an idea I have...

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/10-09-14-scuttling-boom-engine/ It isn't quite as slow as your deck in my opinion. The Khans block is going to see a huge slow down in standard and if you either 1) take them out before T4 or T5 or 2) keep up with them late game you've already lost. I took the first option.

CrovaxTheCursed, Stevens, skozzkozz

How about the deck now?

Well it is definitely way more powerful with black supporting it.

IATEAREPUBLICAN I changed the deck up quite a bit, let me know what you think.

OMG dood, what a paradigm shift. Now with the addition of Black, you have a way, way better chance of surviving the later game should it come to that. I just laughed out loud when I thought about getting Underworld Cerberus attacking on turn 3 with Haste though. Wow. I dig it, man. Also, the addition of Lifelink will insure you can out tempo blitz decks.

I wanted to say too, if you really wanna see how to use Colossus of Akros , check this out: Oh My! The Colossi!!. I know, I'm a tool for promoting my own deck, but I stand by it lol.

CrovaxTheCursed I was thinking about what the deck was missing and I remembered back to a while ago when you suggested to either splash black or white (if I were to splash a color). Came across 2 Underworld Cerberus and I've always really liked the card, so I chose to take a leap. Do you have any suggestions on what to add or take out or replace?

The only thing I can think of right now that excludes RTR block is Mogis, God of Slaughter . However, unlike Keranos, I feel like with Mogis you'd like him to be a creature sometimes since his static ability is not as useful as Keranos in all matchups. Sometimes it can be better, sometimes it can underwhelm. If you're seeing a lot of aggro decks, then Mogis can really shift the tempo in your favor (even if he's not a creature) since he's basically adding an extra two damage per turn, or slows down their assault. That kind of clock is a nightmare for aggro decks since they tend to not leave up much of a defense in the first place. When they have to answer your beaters, stay ahead of your removal, and outrace Lifelink, that extra two damage per turn is Hell for them. Not to mention two damage per turn wrecks control too, they just have more answers for him is all. I don't see you getting the devotion to make him a creature as it is now, at least not consistently, but he would certainly be good as a two-of in the sideboard for those Weenie/MUD players. Now if you really wanted to make Mogis work, you could think about adding Eidolon of the Great Revel . There have been many discussions and debates regarding this fellow so I won't go into the details. Suffice it to say, it IS a good card, and speeds up that clock on your opponent even more. Now they'd be taking two per turn, and two for every spell 3CMC and below, which is almost everything that matters (e.g.: all relevant removal spells/counter spells in the format). Yes, you take the hits from him too, but you're already ahead with your burn spells and hasty creatures so that shouldn't matter. The main thing with the Eidolon is that he WILL speed the match up, whether that's good, bad, or indifferent to you winning. He's one of those that you "live and die by", but also makes your opponent think twice about 90% of the spells they cast. Anyway, I said I wouldn't go into detail about him, just another suggestion to make the deck even faster and to give Mogis devotion if you were to go that route.

CrovaxTheCursed yeah I thought about mogis but he'd probably Def be a sideboard card at best like you stated. Idk about the Eidolon, mainly because I have a ton of 2 drops and I have those pain lands. I would ask though if I should look into a 2nd whip of Erebos and if so, what to replace for it

Well, a second Whip would be nice for consistency sake. But I don't know that I'd drop anything mainboard for another one. If I had to, the first on my chopping block would be either of your sorceries. While they are powerful in their own right, do not contribute to any sort of aggro. I'm not saying take them out by any means, that would just be my reasoning behind it if you did. I know Whip doesn't contribute to aggro either, but it helps you survive, and survival trumps utility. Maybe just add the second Whip to the sideboard in place of a Bile Blight , that way it's easier to find a spot for it when you need it because you'll be taking something out that's less relevant in that particular matchup anyway, if that makes sense.

You, sir, have my +1 for name alone.

Tenebrex thank ya much. What do you think of the deck though? I'm all ears on all opinions

how will you swing ensouled Darksteel Citadel on turn 2 if you tapped it for mana to cast Ensoul Artifact turn 1 : darksteel citadelturn 2 : island tap island and citadel : cast ensoul on citadel

Magicman613 that is my fault, it used to be a different deck.

I might suggest replacing the Flame-Wreathed Phoenix with a couple Stormbreath Dragon . The Dragon is strictly better, and this is very clearly not a budget deck. Also, Thassa, God of the Sea doesn't really help the deck out too much, as this appears to be a kind of midrange-y deck, so I might suggest bringing in the Keranos, God of Storms from the sideboard to replace it, but if you want to keep it, then I would suggest adding a couple of Bident of Thassa , as I'm noticing a severe lack of draw in this deck. You might look into some of the new cards coming out of Khans, like Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker , or Dragon-Style Twins . Other midrange-y goodness cards like that. Lastly, any kill spell would be a strict upgrade to Voyage's End . Something like Drown in Sorrow , Anger of the Gods , Bile Blight , or even just more Lightning Strike . Still like the deck, though. Really cool deck.

really cool deck man +1. Could you also check out might deck and tell me what you think? Need all the help. http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/temur-standard-artifact-ready-for-post-rotation/