nnewbury9469 Too expensive mana wise and wheels and my other pain get the job done for less not to mention the fact that such a card would lead to the whole board turning on me before I can fully kill them all. Speaking of which I should add that to the list of cards I never want to see again. XP

Anonygod Huh I don't really remember that one... interesting... I may have to test that but I don't like the fact that I get hurt as well and also that I have to have both discard pain dealers and draw ones out at the same time but I usually have both out anyway. :)

But anyways to you both, thanks for the suggestions! :3

Hmmm on second thought I don't really like Urza's Guilt that much after I realized that I had to discard as well in addition to the four I was already taking and all my wheels/shuffle effects seem to be better than it as well because they don't give the opponents a choice what to discard and they refresh my hand better. :P

kenara

Sigil of Sleep - the only one of these cards I will probably consider as I do not like auras in this deck due to the tendency of my creatures dying especially if I place something like this on Neku as it attracts even more attention but a one mana investment to bounce creatures is nothing to scoff at however another problem comes up when half the creatures I find in EDH have ETB effects and I don't have anything else to target. Additionally, I only have two creatures that can take up this card up and use it as the rest of my pain cards come in the form of enchantments so it can be a dead draw as well.

Vampiric Link - Same as above except less helpful because it does not actually get rid of threats.

Blessing of Leeches - Useful and is less likely to fall into the grave but I already have Darksteel Plate which protects itself and is reusable not to mention that Wrath of God, Damnation, and Terminate like cards are very real threats to regenerate which makes it worst the indestrucable in that regard.

Elder Mastery - too expensive for a investment in an aura that will surely attract attention as removal is real.

Archmage Ascension - As much as that is a sweet effect, three mana and six counters is a huge amount to ask for considering it won't do anything for at least six more turns after it comes out considering I only gain massive amounts of card draw on my turn. Whereas Bloodchief Ascension my favorite of all the ascensions only costs one mana and takes three counters and is extremely easy to go off because players are always taking damage whether it be from shocks or each other or me.

Thanks for the suggestions anyway. :3

Anonygod yes I have but Mindcrank does not do anything major on its own and usually helps an opponent more than it helps until the combo comes out as usually everyone is running some form of recursion or has Elixir of Immortality or an Eldrazi or I use Time Spiral to shuffle back their library. :3

In other news I just noticed this deck got top rank in #74 on 2014-12-13 :D thank you all who viewed/upvoted/commented this deck!

DERPLINGSUPREME I am trying to keep the curve lower and putting a six drop aura that can only go on two of my creatures (who may have on Lightning Greaves and not to mention it will be dead any other time) that will mostly likely attract the removal of Neku or Fate to only lose both the aura and the creature is not worth imo. I would probably put in Sigil of Sleep before I go anywhere near a six drop aura. :3

Thograr

Forced Fruition falls under the category of cards I don't want to see in this deck because I can't control when the opponent draws. Meaning that if I were to lose a pain source for a moment all I am giving the opponent is card advantage and tons of search so they can have almost whatever they want in their deck. This matters because the maximum hand size rule does not help much when mostly everyone is running some sort of shuffle effect basically meaning that milling out someone is near impossible.

Thanks for commenting! :3

deyturkrjobs :3 to you as well.

klone13 Read this thread here on how to use it. :3

(Also, you forgot to upvote the deck as I can see who upvotes what but that's ok :D)

Sorry to say Kozelek, but you do have to upgrade your account to see who upvoted your deck and other users can't see for you either. :C

Next major update in progress, I have been working on it for the past few days and the deck should be stable again some time this week so excuse the mess for anyone who is reading this. :3