Hellrazer

Modern TheAnnihilator

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RoarMaster says... #1

22 lands is probably a bit light for needing to hit four mana on fourth turn.

Also, I dont know if I would exactly call it 'looping' land destruction, as that infers that you can keep reservoir-using it, rather than just getting 2 uses out of them like here.

December 28, 2015 3:11 a.m.

mtgThaen says... #2

Reminds me of a list I saw Zac Elsik playing at an FNM a few weeks back. Absolutely fun to watch! Plus one!

December 28, 2015 3:58 a.m.

rothgar13 says... #3

Given that your deck is pretty single-mindedly focused on Seance, I'd suggest Idyllic Tutor to fetch it up, and a couple more big payoff creatures to swing with. Thragtusk is great from a value perspective, but unless you have multiples, I think this deck will find it hard to close out the game. The land destruction plan is neat, and it will inconvenience some decks pretty heavily, but you need wincons. I'd peruse the available Eldrazi (obviously not the legendaries, since those shuffle the 'yard back into your library) and other sorts of big beaters to pack some more muscle into the deck.

December 28, 2015 7:50 a.m.

TheFoilAjani says... #4

I think you would get a lot of value from Faithless Looting. Fauna Shaman would be sweet.

December 28, 2015 8:59 a.m. Edited.

TheAnnihilator says... #5

What does everyone think about Realm Razer in this list?

@RoarMaster I can get away with 22 lands since I play 4x Birds of Paradise and 4x Noble Hierarch.

@mtgThaen Thanks!

@rothgar13 The deck can actually function really well without Seance as a disruptive midrange deck. Seance only serves as a sort of inevitability engine, especially against Tron. But, other than Knight of the Reliquary and Thragtusk, the deck can have issues presenting big threats.

@TheFoilAjani I actually had Looting in the first draft, but it always felt bad to cast because it leaves me down a card. I'm using Satyr Wayfinder instead, but each has it's own ups and downs. Any suggestions? Fauna Shaman is interesting, but I feel that the deck is fairly consistent, and Shaman would slow it down.

December 28, 2015 10:54 a.m.

TheAnnihilator says... #6

What does everyone think of the update?

December 28, 2015 12:34 p.m.

BantBitch says... #7

I really love this deck idea! I think it'd be awesome if you could encore irate some landfall abuse with Tunneling Geopede. That way, if you Seance targeting Realm Razer, you can do a nice chunk of damage. Just a suggestion for an awesome deck idea!

December 28, 2015 1:22 p.m.

BantBitch says... #8

Also Jaddi Offshoot would be good sideboard for the burn matchup.

December 28, 2015 1:32 p.m.

TheAnnihilator says... #9

@BantBitch Those are some interesting suggestions! I hadn't thought of landfall, but it might be very good. My only concern is that I may not have enough focus on lands to trigger landfall repeatedly (except maybe Sakura-Tribe Elder). Ideally, when Realm Razer come into play, the lands stay gone for good. =D

December 28, 2015 1:40 p.m.

Seance triggers on every up keep, so on their upkeep you can always play a realm Razer, you don't necessarily need to kill it, it does set them back a ton. How do you get creatures into the grave other than playing them then having them killed by some way or another? Might wanna try Pack Rat having more creatures in the grave makes seance more useful. Nothing's more awkward when you're playing a seance deck with no creatures in the grave

December 28, 2015 4:56 p.m.

Totally love the deck! It sort of feels like you might have a hard time winning because of no huge beaters... Sounds like a bland suggestion, but just a playset of good old goyf?

December 28, 2015 5:06 p.m.

@ryanjoha Yeah, Razor is just good all around. I have had the pleasure of Time Walking an opponent in a few games. I have Satyr Wayfinder here to put stuff in the grave, but additionally, some of my creatures sac themselves (Fulminator Mage and Sakura-Tribe Elder). I used to have Commune with the Gods in the deck, but there was a suggestion to play Bolt instead. Maybe Commune should come back?

I can't do Pack Rat, though, because I don't run black.

@FAMOUSWATERMELON Thanks! I was considering finding room for some Goyfs, but the deck is pretty tight. Maybe I should shave the Bolts?

December 28, 2015 5:58 p.m.

What do you think of Fauna Shaman?

December 28, 2015 6:05 p.m.

@ryanjoha I had initially dismissed Fauna Shaman as being too slow, but I haven't actually tested it, so I'll look into it a little.

December 28, 2015 7:53 p.m.

In theory it should be good. It dumps creatures in your grave and gets more in your hand. I'm theory you can put as many creatures into your grave for as much green mana that you have. And it would allow you to play a few more one ofs. Like more situational creatures like Reclamation Sage

December 28, 2015 10:05 p.m.

I suppose you could play a more toolboxey list with Shaman. Like, one of Realm Razer for the combo, some utility -- Linvala, Keeper of Silence, Rec Sage, Melira, Sylvok Outcast, etc. Reminds me of Pod a little bit.

December 28, 2015 11:05 p.m.

What about Reveillark in here?

December 28, 2015 11:10 p.m.

I guess I would keep at least 2 bolts, because they're just premium removal (and they hit the razer). But as is, the list looks very solid anyways, so it may not be worth it.

December 29, 2015 5:53 a.m.

FAMOUSWATERMELON I put 4x Bolts in the sideboard to bring in against Affinity, Infect, Merfolk, etc.

December 29, 2015 11:58 a.m.

SilverIronMan says... #20

If you're only looking to put bolt in for those matchups, then it's probably better to go for Lightning Helix.

January 29, 2016 midnight

@SilverIronMan Against a lot of those aggressive matchups, you'd want the cheapest option so you can start double-spelling in a turn. The exception is against Burn, against which Helix is fantastic. However, that's because Helix is basically a double-spell in one card -- it counters a Bolt and kills a creature at the same time.

However, in light of the new meta, I've swapped my mainboard Paths (mainly there against Twin) for mainboard Bolts, and then my sideboard set of Bolts became 2x Paths and 2x Helixes.

January 29, 2016 9:14 a.m.

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