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Metamorphic1992 Bloodspawn ClassyShinobi So I put in Devil's Play and took out all 4 of my Crater's Claws and my remaining Arc Lightning... right now I have a Lava Spike as a placeholder but I think that will not be sufficient. Any ideas?

On another note, on the sideboard I removed Autumn's Veil and put in Red Elemental Blast, as it is Legacy Legal and quite budget friendly.

Maybe you could use some mana ramp for the Devil's Play, Fire Servant and Hidetsugu's Second Rite. I'd suggest Braid of Fire, Infernal Plunge or Brightstone Ritual.

Another thing to think about is that you will have some hard math to do to hit exactly 10 life with all the Guttersnipeing and Fire Servanting going on. If you feel like it would help you hit 10 you could add a single X-spell back in.

What do you think about Brimstone Volley?

I've always done the math lol. 95% of the time with this deck there will not be a Hidetsugu and Fire Servant out together, normally it is gonna be one or the other. Sometimes I think I should honestly just put another Mountain back in the deck.

Descisions, descisions, descisions.

I might try playtesting one Reforge the Soul, running out of burn ammo has been one of my main problems. I tell you though, Braid of Fire IS A FRICKEN GOOD CARD LIKE SUPER GOOD I WOULDNT NEED ANY LAND ANYMORE... but budget. Love the card though. Once again thanks for the contributions!

I would love to get some fetch lands in here but I own none (that are red) but I have spied my eye upon a card called Blasted Landscape. Probably not even close to ideal, though.

Erh... I don't mean to make you dissapointed, but mana empties between phases. So Braid of Fires mana can only be used to cast instants. But there are spells like Volcanic Geyser, Aurelia's Fury, Ravaging Blaze and Comet Storm that could make it worthwhile.

Also, you should definetely check out Fork. That's an insane spell If i know one.

Aren't there versions just like Fork but cheaper? Can't remember any names but they are 2 mana and do I think the exact same thing. Hmmm

Reverberate is a Fork. There's also Howl of the Horde, Increasing Vengeance, and other things like that, but those are a little different. Also, were you asking what to replace for Lava Spike, or what to cut to put in more? Oh, and if you are going with the anti-blue red counterspell plan in the sideboard, then you can consider Overmaster, Burnout, Pyroblast, or Molten Influence to have a wider range of options as to how many you want and which you'd like to use. At the very least, Pyroblast is slightly better than Red Elemental Blast. If you were to have a Guttersnipe on feild, with your opponent having a mass amount of non-blue permanents on the battlefield to the point that you will be dead the following turn, if the opponent has 1-2 life and you top deck Red Elemental Blast than its a dead draw with no legal targets. However, top decking Pyroblast would let you target any permanent and cast the spell, though it would have no effect. But, Guttersnipe would then finish the opponent. Obviously the circumstances where this could ever possilby matter are ridiculously rare, but you never know and it's just good to be prepared. Though, don't worry about this if you ever decide to run both.

Lol I had never noticed a difference, I had thought the very very slighlty different wording wouldn't change it, but I see an expert eyecan note the difference ClassyShinobi.

I simply am not sure if these duplicate cards will be a good idea. I think sometimes the problem is that I just can't kill them all the way. I am still thinking about adding that ONE Reforge the Soul instead of the Lava Spike, I think that is one of the best things I can do right now.

One advantage, I might add, is that Reverberate or Fork would copy Goblin Grenade with only having to sac 1 goblin.

I think that Reforge the Soul is great in this deck, and a very reasonable replacement for Lava Spike. You could also try Wheel of Fortune or Wheel of Fate to avoid getting boned by not hitting reforge for it's miracle cost. With Wheel of Fate you could set it up so that you can dump your hand in the turns that the wheel is suspended, then have a finishing turn when it gets cast. But this could also get you boned in some cases when you top deck it turn 5, so as always these options are up to you. Another you could try Winds of Change, though it is far inferior in my opinion since you don't draw a full seven, and you'll usually end up draw 1 or 2. Also, completely unrelated to any started conversation so far, Pyrokinesis is a good sideboard card vs. Elves or any other aggro deck.

Wheel of fortune is banned just fyi..

You can cast Red Elemental Blast without any legal target and it fizzles although Pyroblast technically would resolve and do nothing, but Guttersnipe doesn't care if the card fizzles or resolves all u have to do to trigger it is cast an instant or sorcery and u can cast any spell no matter what as long as u can meet its casting cost/requirements and there's no static ability in play to prevent it. Legal targets r required for resolution not for casting. So they're exactly the same in this scenerio.

Of course u can't cast sorcery speed spells outside of your main phases but thats agiven.

Unless you play it as a miracle cost, I learned Metamorphic1992.

Okeyyyyy I think it is update time! I am gonna put that Reforge the Soul in and see how it works instead of that Lava Spike. I will make this into an update to condense all these comments and tell you guys how it works!

PS: By the way I have 3 Pyroblasts in my suggestion inbox lol.

by the way ClassyShinobi I think that Wheel of Fate is just a tad bit slow because it is a suspend 4... this deck should be winning in 5-7 turns 85% of the time.

Miracles r the exception yes. I wasn't referring to them, i was just stating that youre allowed to play any spell at any given time provided you have priority, its the appropriate spell speed, and u can pay all of the casting costs as long as no static abilities are in play that prevent it whether its a targeting spell with or without a legal target or anything else.

I am having second thoughts on my second thoughts about Browbeat. Any ideas? Maybe cut 1-2 Faithless Lootings?

Bloodspawn you were talking about Browbeat and I think I can fit it in nicely. I will -2 Thunderous Wrath and -2 Faithless Looting and +4 Browbeat. Does this sound like it would be good to you?

Browbeat puts the option in their hands. It's not bad but u would probably lose if u waste 2 turns casting browbeats and drawing 6 cards you cant cast while the opponent drains your life total. 2-3 tops imho. Faithless looting is very good. Being able to get rid of ur extra lands for fuel is awesome for what it costs and doing it twice is fantastic. Wrath is good but its just whatever u prefer. Anyways thats my advice, i know u asked bloodspawn but i thought id comment lol.

This is definetely the right deck type for Browbeat since your opponent is choosing between direct damage from browbeat or direct damage from the spells you draw, i am unsure wether or not you actually need card-draw. You are playing mid-high curve, and spells like Devil's Play that scale along with the number of lands you have. Since you have the experience of playing your deck, you are the best judge.

Do you often find yourself top-decking and would like to refill your hand during the game? Add in Browbeat. If your experience instead is that you always have 2-3 cards in hand even in the late game, you can probably do without it.

I now agree with Metamorphic1992 that you only need 3 though. My experience like i told you was that the opponent would usually choose damage the first time, but i am running low cmc discard so they would rather take the damage than give me the cards that could win med the game. If they know your deck however, they will be more inclined to choose card draw since you might not have mana to play a second spell.

Casting multiple browbeats and not doing any damage will not happen, since if your opponent chose card draw the first time you will have multiple other cards to cast instead.

And finally, if youre opponent were to choose damage, because of the wording that damage is doubled by Fire Servant.

And come on, when was ever drawing 3 cards for possible 2 mana (Ruby Medallion) bad?

The issue happens around turn 5 when ur close to top decking and u cast browbeat to refill ur hand or deal 5 and they pick draw b.c theyre low on life. U end up drawing a 2nd browbeat and any 2 card combination of these 5: an extra ruby, an extra servant, an extra rite, an extra token gen, or a land. U have nothing else to deal dmg with this turn. Your opponent has a chance to atk u and uve dealt no dmg. Youre faced with dead cards and u have to cast browbeat again. And since ur opponent knows ur not playing any more spells this turn they can let u draw cards again and then attack u again next turn possibly winning and u didnt deal dmg again. U dont want to hit a browbeat when u cast 1, u want a burn spell that doesnt leave ur fate in their hands. Thats y 4x browbeat would b an issue imho.

That was casting browbeat on back to back turns not in the same turn just to clarify. Obviously if u have 2 rubies in play before this it wont b an issue but the deck is designed to work with 3-4 lands and a ruby medallion. If u spend 2 turns casting browbeat and something else that doesnt deal dmg or nothing else b.c ur out of mana, ur asking to get beat. If every spell was a burn spell this wouldnt be an issue but i named 5 nonburn spells plus if u draw in thunderous wrath its high cmc makes it possibly 6 dead cards u could hit.