Horse with no name (Knights)

Modern DH_Cell

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jd16990 says... #1

I think you should replace Elite Inquisitor with Puresteel Paladin not only for the free equip but also carddraw every time you play an equipment!

August 19, 2014 7:44 a.m.

DH_Cell says... #2

hey jd16990 thx for the feedback. Well, Im not gonna put it because his abbility is good to draw cards but he is weak in comparison, just a 2/2, while I already have Infiltration Lens for that. Have on mind that Im trying to make a fast assault, to be agressive, and he wont provide me that much.

August 19, 2014 11:16 p.m.

CelticStag says... #3

I know this deck is aggro, but you may think of throwing in just like 2 Sanctified Charge if you can. It's a huge hit for someone to take from your already buffed dudes, and would be a fairly nice finisher

August 20, 2014 8:20 a.m.

DH_Cell says... #4

hey CelticStag, thx for the suggestion. Most of my dudes will be 4 attack and already first strike. This card would be usefull if I had more creatures 1/1, like a human army, but I dont have that many creatures. And 5 manas in modern is almost a dead card (believe me, I built some decks on the past with some good 5 mana cards but I NEVER could use it haha)

August 20, 2014 8:51 a.m.

darkness23 says... #5

Great deck, +1!

August 20, 2014 9:09 a.m.

Abuteetti says... #6

Very cheap and looks good. For modern beginners could be very good, but since it's very cheap, and many people may have a larger budget, why not adding a couple Path to Exile , since it is modern and mono-white. I know, it would double the price of this deck, but if someone can afford something a little more expensive, it's a great card. Otherwise, great deck, +1

September 3, 2014 8:15 a.m.

DH_Cell says... #7

MultiMakto thanks for ur feedback. Yeah I know, a little more money and I could do a more competitive deck. I have 5 mono color deck and one 5 color deck. Im gonna play with them for a while more and see the results. The one I most like and enjoy to play, I will invest more money slowly :)

September 3, 2014 8:18 p.m.

kamarupa says... #8

Kor creatures love Artifact Equipment. If you haven't already, you might take a look at Kor Legions (not my deck). I don't think Infiltration Lens is a good fit in this deck, as you have no way of making opponent's block. No one is readily going to give you a double draw if they don't have to. (And with decent lifegain, they won't bother) I suppose it could be a decent decoy target for players with such things as Naturalize . I also notice that you only have 1 flyer and only when it's equipped. White is really strong with Flying creatures and lifegain. You might consider cards that add more of those Abilities. On the cheap side, Squadron Hawk comes to mind.

September 10, 2014 8:33 a.m.

DH_Cell says... #9

Hey kamarupa, thx for the feedback! I just bought this cards, and btw they didnt arrive yet, so I cannot tell u a lot of things about the mechanic of this deck haha. Most of my creatures will have first strike and vigilance, so I think/hope it will force the opponent to block even if I have Infiltration Lens (and because I have a lot of creatures, so someday he will have to block something). Naturalize can target half of my deck, so yeah, he will have to make a choice! Squadron Hawk can call for his friends, but with the equipments they will be weak for this deck (I dont have a lot of flying but all creatures have first strike, what helps a lot). I would put Puresteel Paladin if I could put things like Batterskull , but Im trying to run budget and fast decks first, and after testing all the 6 decks I have (5 mono color and one 5 colors) I can put more money on it.

And about the deck u mentioned, its a good one, with a lot of combos and so on, I could do such a thing, but the filosophy of my deck is a little bit different (and I hope it works) ;)

September 10, 2014 10:03 a.m.

kamarupa says... #10

Well, I can tell you that I run a deck with Infiltration Lens and it doesn't do much unless I get into my Tangle Angler (and then it's freakin' awesome) I'm also using it in a deck with Lure I'm just now putting together. (should be good, there, too)

I'm afraid I disagree with you regarding your opponent's likelihood of blocking. I would surmise that First Strike will deter opponents from blocking, and Vigilance will allow you to block, which will do nothing with Infiltration Lens . Also, consider that many decks have their own mechanics to deal with being attacked. One such would be massive and quick Lifegain. Another would be Removal.

I'd add this - I've put together a Kor/Artifact Equipment deck and the pacing is all off. I get too many Creatures and Artifacts for White's feeble mana rate. Even with 0-drop Equipments and whatnot, it just doesn't compete with those I play against.

Good luck!

September 10, 2014 10:46 a.m.

DH_Cell says... #11

kamarupa well its true, maybe I can switch it for more Ring of Thune , Trusty Machete or even Bone Saw . So, even with I mix with the Kor/Equip deck it wont be competitive? At least my deck is budget, the only expensive card is Mirran Crusader haha

September 10, 2014 11:36 a.m.

DH_Cell says... #12

And kamarupa I have other decks (that are still budget) but much more competitive! The mono-white and mono-green I just figured out it recently and Im trying to build it to test and see what happens.

September 10, 2014 11:43 a.m.

kamarupa says... #13

I think Kor/Artifact Equipment decks can be competitive, like the one I mentioned above, but it takes some very fine tuning, and a handful of pricey-ish cards ($1-$5). Mine is not and I don't want to copy someone else's. You can look at here, if you like: Flickering Outfitter. Now, I don't know what you're playing against - you might fare ok with this deck. I can tell you that my deck doesn't fair well against anything with Deathtouch, against lots of Flying, against any sort of Removal like Doom Blade , against any sort of Burn, even my girlfriend's Pariah +Inviolability deck destroys it. I haven't tested it against my own decks, but I imagine it would get smoked by my Invisible Stalker +Enchantments and my Infect deck, too. In order for this sort of deck to win, it's gotta hit hard and FAST, and FAST is not something White does well.

I like your Budget. I only build decks on the cheap myself, usually coming in between $20-$30. I have seen and have built many competitive decks for that price range or less. I like Green because the mana ramps are so affordable and that opens the color up to more card options. But of course, where there's creativity, there's a way to make anything competitive. Well. All most.

September 10, 2014 1:41 p.m.

A single Golem-Skin Gauntlets might do well in here, and maybe a single O-Naginata too. Since you have a lot of soldiers, Veteran's Armaments could maybe work too.

September 11, 2014 11:19 a.m.

I'd also remove the maindeck Revoke Existence . You'd likely want more creatures or equipment there instead.

September 11, 2014 11:21 a.m.

DH_Cell says... #16

GeminiSpartanX I agree with u but not to remove all of the revoke existence and the add of O-Naginata because it is easy to equip since most of my creatures will be 3+ power easily.

September 11, 2014 11:50 a.m.

dahhahm says... #17

Use 1 Godsend and take out 1 celestial flare? Maybe?

October 6, 2014 12:03 p.m.

DH_Cell says... #18

dahhahm it is a good possibility, Im gonna give it a try, thank you for the suggestion!

October 6, 2014 1:13 p.m.

IAmKingTony says... #19

always a fan of decks like these. I like your choices!

October 15, 2014 9:50 a.m.

DH_Cell says... #20

October 15, 2014 9:58 a.m.

What about Fiendslayer Paladin ?

October 25, 2014 12:55 p.m.

DH_Cell says... #22

Hey EgyptianSpaceGamer, Fiendslayer Paladin is a good card but I already have 8 on 3cmc slot. Knight Exemplar is the lord and Mirran Crusader offers double protection and double strike, while Fiendslayer Paladin only for targets. So, I already have black protection and red protection (for RDW and Burn) on SB. Sword of War and Peace helps against Path to Exile and Lightning Bolt

October 25, 2014 1:28 p.m.

kiy251 says... #23

I'd highly recomend Silverblade Paladin he seems pretty good.

If you're running Puresteel Paladin then push some more equipment into the deck for more values. Maybe Golem-Skin Gauntlets or Cranial Plating could be handy with more equipment? I don't know the deck very well so I can only speculate. I don't know what you think of Batterskull as a curve topper.

If you're in white maybe side Stony Silence and/or Kataki, War's Wage against affinity. (As an affinity player I f**king hate them)

October 29, 2014 9 a.m.

DH_Cell says... #24

Hey kiy251, thank you for the feedback.

Stony Silence and Kataki, War's Wage screw with my equips too, so do not worth :(

Batterskull is a excellent card but I was even thinking that Elspeth, Knight-Errant is too high cmc for this deck haha. The speed purestell knight gives u is really good, soo u have to keep the cmc as low as possible.

The funniest part of recommending Silverblade Paladin is that I was commenting on other knight deck to the guy to take him off. We already have a lot of 3cmc creatures, and Mirran Crusader already have double strike and double protection and Knight Exemplar is the lord, so I dont think more 3cmc would help. And this guy needs another knight on the field to work on, and as Im running only 20 knights (because of the equips) its gonna be hard to be useful.

The same logical for Golem-Skin Gauntlets , because u need something else to work well, and its not easy to get them all together :(

Cranial Plating would give me something like +2 or +3 of attack, no more than it, for two manas and I would have to splash black to be a little better, what is not good a heavy white cards

More equips would work on a deck where the creatures have some singery with them, but they have a huge interaction only with purestell, so I think, for now, 14 equips is enough

October 29, 2014 9:14 a.m.

dahhahm says... #25

I agree that Silverblade Paladin wouldn't be so great in this deck. I think your knight base is perfect as is: Student of Warfare eats mana while you can wait to draw for a Puresteel, Mirran goes great with equipments. Personally, I might take out White Orchid and switch it with 4 Squadron Hawk/ 3 Paradise Mantle, and cut 1 or 2 plains.

I would recommend some Infiltration Lens . I'd personally take out 1 Bladed Bracers and 1 Bonesplitter . But then again that's a really loose suggestion. Bladed Bracers is a lot better than people think it is, especially with something that has vigilance with Pro 2-4 colors. I wouldn't take out deathtouch/lifelink/first strike, and trample by itself is a game breaking mechanic many people take for granted. However, I don't know if you should run them at 2 since, you have access to Steelshaper's Gift , which can search instead of running redundancy in keywords.

Bonesplitter is the 1 weird card in this deck, just because of how you can turn 1 Student, but with 4 bonesplitters, no one's going to turn 2 Bonesplitter + Student over lvl 2 Student, but it is efficient Puresteel fuel... but is it better than Bone Saw ? I think the difference might be moot, and answered by personal preference.

The only reason I would insert lens is that your deck runs the risk of losing too much advantage when a "keystone" creature dies.

Elspeth is a great dumb planeswalker. Turn 3 Mirran, Turn 4 Elspeth. Easy Peasy.

To sum it up, if I had this deck (which I don't and could be completely wrong about):

-1 Basilisk Collar

-1 Bladed Bracer

-1 O Naginata

-1 Sword of War and Peace

+4 Steelshaper's Gift

-1 Bonesplitter (or -4 Bonesplitter + 3 Bonesaw)

+1 Infiltration Lens

---And only if you're not picky about being 100% Knights-----

(these change are marginal in actual effectiveness, but simply gives the deck more "feel" I'm not going to fully recommend this, just put my word behind it.)

-4 knight of white orchid

-2 plains

-1 Elspeth

+4 Squadron Hawk

+3 Paradise Mantle

October 29, 2014 10:35 a.m.

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