How to deal less than 259 damage on Turn 4
Modern*
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Have you been able to test this deck against the common Modern metagame?
August 12, 2013 11:03 p.m.
FlamingRage says... #4
I guess Spikeshot Elder can come in handy when you're attacking with him and you have Shared Animosity out. If you got 4 or 5 Goblins attacking in response to them declaring blockers you activate his ability. Dealing 4 or 5 damage. But once again, if you have Shared Animosity out the chances are you're doing great. Also it costs 3, so maybe if you needed to sideboard in that creature to for his ability, you could just sideboard in a burn spell. The downside to that is, you can only use the burn spell once. I don't think I'll personally use him. Maybe for myself I will get another burn spell for the sideboard.. Idk I'm gonna use this deck again this Thursday. On Sunday I used it and I went 1-3. It was my own mistake though. I should've at least went 2-2 or 3-1 if I wasn't being stupid. Also, I didn't know Warren Instigator 's ability can activate twice so that would've also helped..
August 13, 2013 6:30 p.m.
@Ohthenoises Thank you very much for those suggestions! They are both getting in there.
@raider44 I like how it took you 3 posts to finish one sentence :) I'm not a huge fan of goblin diplomats myself, and Siege-Gang is so sweet to drop with the second warren instigator trigger. I'll think about it though.
@ DrFunk27 Nope. I currently do not own any of the cards, aside from some one-ofs in my goblin EDH deck. I also don't have a store to play modern at, nor anybody to test with. Soooo...
@FlamingRage At least one of us is playing the deck! I'm pretty sure that the elder is a little bit slow for this. I think I'll stick with Ohthenoises suggestions for now. Thank you for playing the deck in a competitive environment and keep updating your findings and results.
August 13, 2013 9:59 p.m.
my bad on so many post i just dont see any plus side to having seige commander in there much better options from all the goblins available..what about squeee the infinite blocker or tuk-tuk the explorer nasty when he dies warren instigator drop krenko then tuk tuk blow tuk tuk up with goblin grenade drop 5/5 goblin in its place i dont know options for this deck are endless... but all in all good deck and im gonna try it this FNM
August 13, 2013 10:20 p.m.
@raider44 Siege-Gang is just an automatic army and a great combo with Krenko. Squee is too slow and Tut-tuk is underwhelming for 3 mana. Siege-Gang also benefits more from shared animosity and goblin chieftain. All in all, he is the best gobbo for the job I thin, and mana cost doesn't really matter because I'm just going to be cheating him in with the instigator.
On another note, I'm finally getting off my butt and trying to build the deck. Yay!
August 13, 2013 10:35 p.m.
aeonstoremyliver says... #8
Plus Siege-Gang Commander lets you sac Goblins to take care of pesky board threats or give 2 to the dome, on top of the 3 tokens he provides. That would be why competitive Legacy Goblins run him.
August 14, 2013 6:48 a.m.
FlamingRage says... #9
I really like the idea of Goblin King . He can be a good combo with Blood Moon or sideboard him in and replace Blood Moon if they have Mountains already. I think he's really awesome, but at this point everything is really awesome.. So if I wanted to put another one back in idk what I would take out.. Just something to think about.
Conversing about this deck is super fun! haha. I just made an account after making this deck so I could comment on it! This is my best deck by far. So thanks for that! :D
August 14, 2013 2:59 p.m.
@FlamingRage Sweet man! Glad I could help out. I'm not sure if the king is fast enough. I'm ordering the deck soon so I'll be able to test soon. :)
August 14, 2013 7 p.m.
chuckles2000 says... #12
I like it, but my biggest concern is the land count. You only have about a 40% chance to draw 4 lands by turn 4...and it drops further for 5 lands by turn 5. Krenko and Seige Gang are really relying on Warren Instigator to see the battlefield, not sure that's a great plan. I'd consider dropping a Seige Gang for a mountain. Also, I'd think about dropping all the Seige Gangs (dropping your curve) and adding either Legion Loyalist or Boggart Ram Gang, maybe Goblin Cohort. You don't need 200+ damage, only 20 (or 50...damn Soul Sisters).
August 15, 2013 12:40 p.m.
@chuckles2000 True, but getting mana flooded rather than screwed is much worse for the deck. If I'm stuck on 2 land, at least I can still cast a lot of my deck. Boggart Ram-Gang is a thought, but this again comes to the sheer card advantage that Siege-Gang nets me. I get a pre-made army, reach, and a mana sink. But I think you may be right with cutting one for a mountain, I'll have to test it to be sure.
August 15, 2013 5 p.m.
FlamingRage says... #14
Yeah, I like the idea of Boggart Ram-Gang and I even like Legion Loyalist , but if its one of them or a Siege-Gang Commander , it's the Siege-Gang. His abilities are nice. Instant army, and you can even use one token to deal 2 damage to creature or player if you're in a pinch. I think replacing one with a Mountain is good though.
I was playing casual tonight and most of the time I had 2 Mountains.. I went back 19 Lands for tonight to see how it would be. But, during a game of Emperor (pretty much 3v3 with some other things if you don't know) and though I had 2 Mountains for like the first 5 turns I was able to get out Warren Instigator right away and with him, a Goblin Chieftain then Krenko, Mob Boss and pretty much all hell broke loose after that but I still never got a 3rd land until about turn 8. But yeah, I raped that Emperor. Then after the Emperor was dead, we decided to finish it with a 4 player free-for-all and then I dealed 183 damage to my previous emperor, who we decided would still have 30 life and the other two people scooped. :)
August 16, 2013 1:26 a.m.
FlamingRage says... #15
Goblin Cohort doesn't have haste so I don't think he's worth it. He doesn't seem fast enough and his condition doesn't help too much. But maybe you could replace 2 Mogg War Marshal s for 2 Legion Loyalist s?
August 16, 2013 2:13 a.m.
@FlamingRage That's pretty awesome! I'm not sure about replacing the war-marshal, just because he's sweet with the denizen, and with krenko. But I'll have to test the loyalists to make sure.
August 16, 2013 11:05 a.m.
Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx , Cavern of Souls and a one-off of Banefire or Devil's Play ?
October 18, 2013 2:32 a.m.
F3nderB3nder says... #20
Would 2 Shared Animosity mean +2 for each attack creature of the same type?
April 4, 2014 9:05 p.m.
jasinatael says... #21
At F3nderB3nder multiple Shared Animosity do stack, so yes.
April 5, 2014 5:36 p.m.
spellmaster6 says... #22
okay, first of all, why don't you have Goblin Lackey in this deck? he is a cheaper version (CMC not real cost) of warren instigator.second, throw in an Illusionist's Bracers to further increase Krenko's multiplying ability.third, for the sideboard, in case you ever are fighting a Guardian of the Gateless and/or damage-reducing deck, put in Horde of Boggarts and Reckless One Lastly, put in a bunch of x burn spells(like Fireball ) with Skirk Prospector and for the cherry on top, throw in Goblin Bombardment
also if you want to be a smart*ss, you can always put in an Altar of Dementia to mill your opponents to death. :)I always laugh so hard when I win like that because of the fact that I don't have a single blue card in my own goblin deck and STILL won by milling.
July 5, 2014 4:57 p.m.
jasinatael says... #23
@ spellmaster6 This is a modern deck and many of the cards you suggested are not legal for that format.
July 6, 2014 2:24 a.m.
Odorous_Walker says... #24
Extremely nice to know that this deck was updated. I was play testing the original until FRF came out and couldn't figure out good adds as well.
March 1, 2015 10:23 a.m.
Your land count might be a bit high, you might be able to drop it down to 18 and add in a couple Legion Loyalist. You might also want to consider a couple of Cavern of Souls to play around counter magic game one and you're not too sad if Blood Moon turns it into a mountain.
raider44 says... #1
not exactly a board wipe but pretty close plus he a goblin
August 12, 2013 8:58 p.m.