I Call Her Vera: Sidisi EDH [PRIMER]

Commander / EDH Daedalus19876

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Daedalus19876 says... #1

HalfLife4Mac: Mind if I quote you in the deck description?

May 20, 2016 10:10 p.m.

NotSquishedYet says... #2

Would World Breaker possibly have a place here? It goes pop-smash against a few problem cards, and DOES advance graveyard shenanigans by buying itself back. You've already got the cards to pull it right down my lane of reusable answers.

May 20, 2016 10:15 p.m.

HalfLife4Mac says... #3

Daedalus19876 Go for it :)

May 21, 2016 7:06 a.m.

kilgore says... #4

Hey man, I was looking at the mana base of my own sidis list. Trying to make a spot for buried ruin and academy ruins. Ive decided on cutting the karoo/bounce lands.

Whenever I build a deck. These lands always start out on my lists. I find as my decks become more tuned and what I would call competitive. These lands get cut first.

I think I really don't like them. They are much to slow and dnot really advance my board the way I want.

At best they make sure you don't miss a land drop. At worst they slow you down so you miss your turn 3 even turn 4 sidisi. They aren't traditional ramp, in fact I wouldn't call them ramp at all.

May 21, 2016 12:34 p.m.

Death927 says... #5

Harsh. Imagine playing someone who just learned magic with this.

May 22, 2016 5:57 p.m.

kilgore says... #6

Death927 to what are you referring too?

May 23, 2016 2:21 a.m.

Death927 says... #7

I've played against new players with overpowered decks, not realizing it, and this is better.

May 24, 2016 9:24 p.m.

kilgore says... #8

Yea. Especially on a budget like this. It's pretty good. It gets hated out pretty hard with graveyard hate but you learn to play around it.

May 24, 2016 9:56 p.m.

Lilbrudder says... #9

I like your take on Sidisi. It is quite different from my version, which is all about abusing enter the battlefield effects. I am planning on to test out your deck a bit so I can learn more about your archetype and to give you some useful feedback. Would you be willing to check out my version? This deck is a thought experiment of sorts in maximizing the power of Sidisi, but the deck I play deck is very similar in playstyle, if not so cuttrhroat.


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May 25, 2016 5:01 p.m.

ohmless says... #10

offhand I want to give a recommendation to consider Sidisi, Undead Vizier. From the Eternal Masters set I would recommend Fact or Fiction.

May 29, 2016 6:17 a.m.

Lilbrudder says... #11

Methinks your deck could benefit from some

Reanimate: Im curious why you dont play this.

Birthing Pod: Sac outlet that gets dredge cards in the graveyard while also getting you a card you need for your combo

Apprentice Necromancer: instant speed reanimation with haste. Excellent Fauna Shaman target.

Kederekt Leviathan: You play all the enchantment reanimation cards. Not including this is simply a waste of a great board control combo

May 29, 2016 9:49 a.m.

Lilbrudder says... #12

I would cut: millikan, Makeshift Mannequin, Reassembling Skeleton and Marang River Prowler. I know they are on theme but they are also either overcosted for their effect or low impact.

May 29, 2016 10:23 a.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #13

Lilbrudder: Thank you for your comment. In order:

I don't play Reanimate because, until recently, I didn't own one and I was nearly broke. Also, because I rely on my commander, I try to avoid putting in non-creature spells unless absolutely necessary. I acquired a copy recently, however, so I've already been looking for a space for it.

Basically the same story for Birthing Pod. I don't own one, non-creature spaces are tight, and with my money aloted to Magic I have higher priorities. I probably should be playing it, though. I'll find one soon.

Apprentice Necromancer and his big brother Doomed Necromancer should both be in there without question. I believe they were not included because they have summoning sickness, but in retrospect that's probably not a good enough reason. They're also pretty cheap - I'll include them in my next order.

Kederekt Leviathan is a good idea, and Ixidron should probably be in here too...Same with Great Whale and Peregrine Drake, which were included in a previous comment. I'll find spaces.

With regards to your suggestions for cuts, millikan and Deranged Assistant are relatively slow for their effect (though they can be handy). And Reassembling Skeleton is useless, agreed.

May 29, 2016 12:11 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #14

Makeshift Mannequin is priceless for its instant speed, though - I'm never unhappy to draw it. Marang River Prowler is my planeswalker assassin, but if my meta changes I'll switch it out.

May 29, 2016 12:19 p.m.

Lilbrudder says... #15

Makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. I think the skeleton and your other cheap castable from the graveuard creatures would be great with Skullclamp, but I dont run it in my sidisi deck either because bug rarely has issues with card advantage

May 29, 2016 12:37 p.m.

SomeDipshit says... #16

Whisperwood Elemental would probably do well in this deck. Can instantly turn a wrath into pure advantage.

May 29, 2016 2:01 p.m. Edited.

Daedalus19876 says... #17

illumfolly: I suspect that Whisperwood Elemental would be actually harmful in this deck. I don't have many non-token creatures on the battlefield at a time, and I'm nervous that (if I don't have a sac outlet), things I need in my GY are going to be trapped face-down. Many of the creatures are in there for ETB effects anyway, so flipping them face-up is strictly worse than casting them. Plus, I'm in trouble if Dread becomes manifested.

Whisperwood Elemental has a place in my Meren deck, though! :)

May 29, 2016 3:32 p.m.

SomeDipshit says... #18

Yeah, makes sense.

May 29, 2016 3:49 p.m.

I feel like Deep Analysis falls short in terms of power and lasting effect in long commander games. Whenever you come by the funding or trading possibility to acquire it, I suggest Damia, Sage of Stone as an excellent reanimation target. With some form of discard outlet, he should give you enough card advantage to create instant-speed zombies whenever you want, and draw enough of your library to control your graveyard as a second hand much more quickly and easily.

May 29, 2016 4 p.m.

Scratch that on the zombies. I think I may have been remembering something akin to Waste Not as opposed to Sidisi.

May 29, 2016 4:02 p.m.

Lilbrudder says... #21

All of the land untapping creatures are fantastic. I use all three along with Phantasmal Image and Phyrexian Metamorph to sometimes copy their effect. If you add them, I would also add Ghostly Flicker as well since it goes infinite with cards like Eternal Witness and Great Whale. Sidisi can then close out the game with Dread Return and Terastodon followed by Massacre Wurm. Ghostly Flicker is an incredibly useful card outside that combo and its a Common.

May 29, 2016 11:59 p.m.

CaptSillva says... #22

Have you considered Crawling Sensation and Splinterfright for this deck?

May 30, 2016 12:35 a.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #23

NotSquishedYet: Deep Analysis is very good when flashbacked - it's one of the only ways to cast card draw from the GY - and allows me to instantly win with Laboratory Maniac. That being said, I should be playing Damia, Sage of Stone as well, but then again I run against the issue of limited spots.

Lilbrudder: Not a bad idea, though for now I probably will just include Peregrine Drake (cheaper and I will likely get one from my packs of EMA). Ghostly Flicker is very handy for a deck that enjoys ETBs so much (and also lets Sidisi dodge spot removal) and I have several copies, but as I said to NSY above, the only issue is spaces. I have actually pulled off a more convoluted version of this combo with Wake the Dead, Eternal Witness, Great Whale (while testing) and a sac outlet, and it was a sweet feeling. Plus, it looks amazing in foil!

CaptSillva: I have considered both, yes. Crawling Sensation is too slow for this deck, and while Splinterfright is fantastic (and used to be in the deck), I had problems where I couldn't cast it on an empty GY, and it sat as a useless card in my hand. I'd still consider putting it back in, but I have other cards that need the spaces more.

Moral of the story in all three cases: this deck could go several directions with a little tweaking, but it's really tight on slots. Pure reanimator, combo, ETB abuse, general GY shenanigans...

Maybe I'll make it shift between "modes" with a sideboard. Thank you all for your comments!

May 30, 2016 2:37 a.m.

Fair point. I had forgotten Laboratory Maniac and the need to draw a single card. I, and my friends, tend to use 36 or 37 lands. I believe it would be fairly manageable for you. I think I would suggest either a basic Island or Bojuka Bog, for cases where they have and Aegis of the Gods you can't get rid of or play something that doesn't allow themselves a graveyard.

Otherwise, Painbringer could be removed for its Diminishing Returns as this deck has ways to get back nearly anything from the graveyard. Sewer Nemesis could be removed for a reason similar to Splinterfright, on the occasions where it could not be played, and could be killed by graveyard shuffling.

May 30, 2016 12:40 p.m.

Daedalus19876 says... #25

NotSquishedYet: Because I don't play much ramp, I think I'll stick with the number of lands I have, but thanks. Bojuka Bog has proven its value tenfold, so I'm not planning on cutting it haha.

I'm afraid I don't understand why you'd suggest Diminishing Returns. It gets rid of my graveyard entirely, AND exiles ten cards from the top of my library (often hitting combo pieces).

And finally, Sewer Nemesis is fine here. The difference is that I can always play my commander, and thus count on having cards in my GY. However, I'll often miss on creatures, so Splinterfright would be a 0/0.

May 30, 2016 5:20 p.m.

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