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Ohthenoises says... #1

Venser, Shaper Savant is incredibly bad here. Mainly because he is UU which may not seem hard to do but really it is incredibly hard to achieve. My goal is to stall until I can drop a win condition and Venser just doesn't do it.

August 19, 2013 8:58 p.m.

Sorry I wasn't more help. It's all I got, Blue wasn't really my thing and Modern I'm even worse at.

August 19, 2013 9:01 p.m.

Ohthenoises says... #3

It's ok. If you want to learn more about the format there's tons of information out there. Some good decklists at mtg top 8.

August 19, 2013 9:07 p.m.

Mr_Cairo says... #4

Given you already have Academy Ruins maindeck, have you considered a Trinket Mage sideboard package? It would let you swap out large quantities of general hate for lots of one-ofs of more specific, powerful hate. Your sideboard at the moment feels pretty flimsy against graveyard-based decks like Dredgevine, or enemy Tron decks. Even if you don't include Trinket Mage , your sideboard could still afford to be a little bit more diversified, given how much of your deck Thirst for Knowledge , Remand , Condescend and Solemn Simulacrum let you see.

Also, if Blightsteel Colossus is for when they bring in all their artifact hate, why not swap it out for a nonartifact (especially given some artifact hate is counter/sacrifice/exile)? Even if Emrakul, the Aeons Torn is outside of your budget, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth would do just as good a job. I played WU Tron back when that was a thing, and trust me - all three Eldrazi titans are very much castable with a Tron manabase. They even provide defense against the odd rogue mill deck you encounter, and you could stuff an Eye of Ugin on the sideboard as a way to look for them (as you can look for Eye with Expedition Map ).

The maindeck seems pretty respectable.

August 28, 2013 6:37 p.m.

Ohthenoises says... #5

It's not a matter of hardcasting the titans it's a matter of being efficient. UTron is all about stalling till you get that Mindslaver . Most Utron lists that have been winning have been Drazi-less decks using the Slaver. Blightsteel Colossus is here because he is indestructible, a huge obstacle for most decks in the format to get around. The other reason is If I were to use the titans it would drag down the efficiency of Treasure Mage and cards like it and that requires siding them out as well. This forces me to make a sideboard package and leaves me less flexibility in the cards I can run on the side.

As it stands I agree. The grave based MU kinda sucks however the sideboard is currently meant to help against aggro which is where this deck needs help. Against Grave based decks I have no problem with them feeding their grave as long as I can counter any spells that would interact with it. Don't counter the mana dork counter what it brings out.

October 17, 2013 12:53 p.m.

VinylScratch says... #6

TRON REFERENCES I LOVE YOU!

November 11, 2013 2:26 p.m.

drakanar says... #7

I'm running a very similar build to yours; the only real differences I have are:

MB:

-1 Treasure Mage for +1 Cyclonic Rift - Slows down aggro pretty well and clears the field for you / acts like another Oblivion Stone

SB:

-1 Ratchet Bomb - See Above;-1 Echoing Truth - See Above+2 Relic of Progenitus - Little GY-hate plus a draw when I need it

I've been contemplating having 2 Spellskite s but don't know what to take out...

December 21, 2013 11:20 a.m.

passionknigh says... #8

Wouldn't Darksteel Colossus work better than Blightsteel Colossus as Darksteel normally will come into play when you've gotten them down low enough for his damage to be effective?

March 22, 2014 6:37 p.m.

Ohthenoises says... #9

passionknigh The Mindslaver combo is my way around infinite life (happens a lot in modern nowadays) Blightsteel Colossus ignores life totals in the same way.

May 19, 2014 1:20 p.m.

Rayenous says... #10

Wow... misplaced Tron references... and yet people love it?

The deck gets it's name from Voltron the children's cartoon and Toy... not Tron the movie. - All about assembling a bunch of smaller parts to get more power out of the whole.

Oh well, end rant!

Like the deck though. I have the Urza Lands, and a number of the key win-con's. So I've been thinking of making something similar. Never wanted to go with the Typical Karn Liberated , and Emrakul, the Aeons Torn option.... so I've been looking for less expensive alternatives.

May 20, 2014 2:11 p.m.

Ohthenoises says... #11

Rayenous While I appreciate your zeal, yes, Tron (the deck) is from Voltron however, I am simply using the name Tron in both contexts.

Recently I've been considering a pretty massive change.

-2 Oblivion Stone for +2 Cyclonic Rift
-3 Treasure Mage for +3 Fabricate
and +2 Snapcaster Mage somewhere (not sure where yet).
Thoughts?

May 20, 2014 2:15 p.m.

Rayenous says... #12

I see where you're going with the Fabricate over Treasure Mage .

It's a trade off of a creature's body for getting an artifact with no CMC limitation... and then adding Snapcaster Mage , to make it more often/reliable.

Some may prefer the creature... but I think I'm in favour of the change.
Snapcaster Mage makes not only the Fabricate more reliable, but the counter spells as well.

Not certain what I would remove... though I would lean towards the Spell Blast , and one Condescend . - You may be able to go with one less Talisman of Dominance ... but not being overly with the deck Archetype, I can't say for sure if it's needed for your mana base.

May 20, 2014 2:48 p.m.

tyforthevenom says... #13

what do you side in if you're in a matchup of U-Tron Vs USA Control and you know game 2 they're siding in Blood Moon ?

May 29, 2014 3:40 a.m.

Ohthenoises says... #14

Repeal and Cyclonic Rift both deal with Blood Moon pretty handily. Otherwise countering it helps. Don't forget that Blood Moon leaves our islands alone since it says "nonbasic".

May 29, 2014 9:18 a.m.

Ohthenoises says... #15

Also, Rayenous. I ended up going for -1 Repeal and -1 Condescend .

Spell Burst is INCREDIBLY powerful late game, often allowing me to say "Nope? on a massive scale. Condescend not so much.

Cyclonic Rift coming in is the reason I dropped a Repeal .

May 29, 2014 9:26 a.m.

tyforthevenom says... #16

Thanks, i see the appeal of Repeal but Cyclonic Rift would probably be minimal

May 29, 2014 9:34 a.m.

Ohthenoises says... #17

The whole point here is to stall and draw. Repeal is great there.

May 29, 2014 9:35 a.m.

GoldGhost012 says... #18

Do you feel you'll always have enough blue sources to reliably cast Snappy game after game? Sometimes it feels like, especially when Sundering Titan hits the field, there won't be enough.

May 29, 2014 11:26 a.m.

Ohthenoises says... #19

Oboro, Palace in the Clouds certainly helps in that regard. I was considering bumping it up to 2x just because of the usefulness.

May 29, 2014 11:55 a.m.

tyforthevenom says... #20

I thought of adding a second to, but then i thought about the legendary rule and thought Minamo, School at Water's Edge could open more sideboard options like Leyline of Singularity against kiki pod splinter twin goblins elves slivers, pretty much anything that isnt majority singleton like u tron

May 30, 2014 5:52 a.m.

Servo_Token says... #21

Hey man, I see that this deck is quite popular with the ladies. I'm currently building my own rendition and it appears that we've made some similar choices. If you don't mind, could you take a look at my build and tell me if I messed up anywhere? Liquid Tron, Delicious I'm just as of yesterday getting into MonoU Tron, and I'm really just making some educated guesses on certain parts. Namely the sideboard.

In exchange, here's a +1. ;D Thanks!

June 5, 2014 10:40 p.m.

Jared1998 says... #22

Is the buy back on Spell Burst really that relevant that you run 1 copy of it over a full playset of Condescend . I would think a free scy 2 would be better than paying 3 to bring it back to your hand when Snapcaster Mage cost less than then the buy back on Spell Burst . I would probably run a third Snapcaster or a 4th condescend but I could be wrong

July 9, 2014 2:25 p.m.

@Jared1998 It's a soft lock. Once tron is down you can keep them stalled until you find the cards or cards you need to win the game outright.

July 9, 2014 2:51 p.m.

JAIL_HOUSE says... #24

Rite of Replication as a one of seems like a good inclusion for a UTron deck. Not only as an alternate win condition but used defensively as well. The 2 blue mana required shouldn't be much of a problem with Oboro, Palace in the Clouds and Talisman of Dominance .

August 1, 2014 10:42 a.m.

tyforthevenom says... #25

I was wondering about Sculpting Steel and Phyrexian Metamorph in this deck as they are any artifact the want and metamorph can be any creature

August 1, 2014 12:52 p.m.

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