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Changing to a "Purer" Form of Control —June 19, 2016
This deck has needed a remodeling for some time now... I have had some time off from magic and coming back into the game I had a chance to look at the deck in a different light. The first problem that I had to address was the fact that mono U tron and Control Decks in general have always had terrible matchups against aggressive decks such as infect and burn. Previously I had decided to just except this fact and try not to ever play those aggressive decks. Unfortunately with aggressive decks such as those making up almost half of the metagame I realized that I could not do this. This prompted me to make some changes to the list (more on that later) but more importantly it made me analyze the way I played the deck and see if there was anything that I could do about my own habits to make those aggressive decks easier matchups. The first step in this analyzation process was to look over some of the replays from Cockatrice and Untap.in. My conclusion was that I was not countering the most important stuff and thus would counter Goyfe instead of holding back on the counter and instead countering there much more dangerous Liliana. Sure I was taking more damage this way however this stopped a much larger threat in the long run. Now with the deck that I was previously running I would never get to that "long run". I would die much sooner than that. So with that in mind I went to change the deck. What I decided was that if I wasn't going to counter their earlier threat I would have to have some other form of removal and/or bounce. Dismember and more bounce in the form of another Repeal and a Cyclonic Rift were my answers to this. With the addition of these spells, my Infect matchup goes up considerably and my already solid matchups against midrange decks got even better. The one problem that I still had was Burn. My solution to this was 2 Bottle Gnomes in the SB. These additions, I feel, make the deck a lot stronger overall. Not only do these changes help out with the new mindset that you should playing this deck with (only counter the real threats and mop up the semi threats later with bounce and removal) it also makes the aggresive matchups better because they will generally have threats on the board before you ever have permission up. The extra bounce and removal will help because you can get rid of their threats after they come off the stack.
A quick side note.
With these large changes to the deck, I feel like I need to make it clear that the play-style of this deck also needs to be changed. No longer should you be tapping out on turn four to cast your defensive Solemn Simulacrum. Often times I realized that I had had to do this play because I would die next turn. Hopefully with the addition of the onboard removal and bounce this will no longer be the case and instead you can cast it on turn 6-7 with some permission in hand.
Changes:
-2 Treasure Mage, -1 Wurmcoil Engine, -1 Solemn Simulacrum, -2 AEtherize (removed from the SB).
+2 Dismember (moved from SB), +1 Repeal, +1 Cyclonic Rift, +2 Bottle Gnomes (added to the SB), +1 Batterskull (added to the SB), +1 Dispel (added to the SB).
I will update the primer ASAP.
im currently testing a u tron list and im wondering if there is anything better than Thirst for Knowledge for extra draw
December 1, 2015 12:52 a.m.
IzzetFanatic says... #3
@nickembry: Thirst is an incredible card as it is. It is even better if you are running 4 Talisman of Dominances because you can just pitch them to the Thirst. Other options include Peer Through Depths but is not as good as Thirst. One other option is Telling Time, or Compulsive Research, which is similar to Thirst but is not as good imo. It does however get better if you run some number (2-4) of Crucible of Worlds.
Conclusion is that Thirst for Knowledge is already a really good card drawing spell and with all of your other cantrip spells like Remand and Repeal you should be fine.
If you have any other questions feel free to ask.
December 1, 2015 1:35 p.m.
I love this deck. I used it for a template for a Tron deck of my own. What are your thoughts on Chalice of the Void in the side against burn and affinity? Also, if you don't mind me asking, why Oblivion Stone over Perilous Vault?
December 6, 2015 12:19 a.m.
IzzetFanatic says... #5
@gogogonzo: Thank you for your compliment. Chalice of the Void is a very good card. It is good against a lot of aggro decks. I personally like my other options against those aggro decks more. There is, however, another version of Mono U Tron that is called either Chalice Tron or Void Tron. This version runs Chalices over your Talismans. It is also very competitive but I personally think it's not as consistent.
As to O-Stone vs. Perilous Vault: O-Stone is essentially the same thing except you can protect your mana rocks like your Talismans. And it is more efficient. You can cast it and activate it a turn earlier then you could with The Vault. This makes it a lot better. If this hasn't convinced you, what does The Vault have that O-Stone doesn't. Then ask what does O-Stone have that Perilous Vault doesn't.
December 6, 2015 8:28 p.m.
Jack-Frost says... #6
Hey, I know you play U-Tron but I built my first G/R Tron that i'd like to make competitive so I can bring it to tournaments and I was wondering if you'd be willing to take a look at it and see if you could give me some pointers and suggestions (I've worked on it a bit and there is a long description/primer since I don't know how to put it in a tab like you did). Karn, the Spirit Dragon
Off of that note, this deck does look amazing. I was wondering if you'd thought of and tried Conduit of Ruin and what you thought of it? It's a little less useful in this deck than G/R Tron, but it will still pull your Sundering Titan and Platinum Angel out and will cut down the costs of your cards (the first one at least).
December 7, 2015 10:21 p.m.
NuBByThuMB says... #7
Love how you changed the background art on your deck. And that you managed to piece your deck info into different menus. Clearly you have some programming experience. Wouldn't mind getting some help with that to spice up my decklists. Mono-U Tron gets a +1 from me. I love tempo decks!
December 10, 2015 11:32 a.m.
Jack-Frost says... #8
By the way, would you be willing to share the code for changing the background of the deck with me? I have one for changing my user page, but i'm not sure how to bring it over to my deck.
December 16, 2015 10:42 p.m.
grasshopper021 says... #9
Is Platinum Emperion viable? I know that platinum angel serves a similar purpose for 1 less mana, but the 8/8 body is significantly sturdier than the 4/4. it seems like it serves the purpose of win condition better.
December 28, 2015 10:51 p.m.
AidanOlson says... #10
Yes, but it sucks against infect, which is a big thing in Modern.
December 28, 2015 11:48 p.m.
IzzetFanatic says... #11
@grasshopper021: I thank you for your suggestion however as AidanOlsonsaid, the Emperion does not protect against ways of dying other then loss of life. The Angel also does cost less which would seem like a matter of little consequence however often times I am casting cards like Wurmcoil and The Angel without Tron. So being able to cast it a turn earlier makes it more valuable in this kind of deck. The role of The Angel in this deck is almost never a wincon but rather a reactive piece of protection against decks that are about to win and I don't have a way to prevent that. So the fact that the Empirion is a better WinCon is of little consequence to me. Emperion DOES have a better p/t which makes it harder to kill with things like bolts. However I have plenty of counter spells and if they are going to double Bolt my Angel I'm fine with that most of the time because they are two for oneing my creature and that is 6 dmg that I have prevented to me.
Thank you for your suggestion tho.
December 29, 2015 3:24 p.m.
Dredge4life says... #12
With my personal U-Tron list, I'm running 1x Tamiyo, the Moon Sage and 4x Repeal instead of 1xSundering Titan and only 3x Treasure Mage. What is your opinion of Tamiyo for this deck? I don't find the double U to be much of a hindrance and she can totally shut down Twin strategies.
January 1, 2016 7:19 a.m.
IzzetFanatic says... #13
@Dredge4life: that's actually an interesting idea. I think Tamiyo is honestly too slow to counteract twin strategies and they can counter it with ease. So you will want to play it later on in the game to hold up counter magic. In my opinion, the Titan is better because it can obliterate your opponents lands and you are getting a 7/10 beater.
Overall I like your version. However I believe that Tamiyo is too slow.
As to the matter of 3 Mages and 4 Repeals... that is just personal preference. If you are against more aggro decks then I like the 4th mage but if you are against more Twin I like the 4th repeal. It is up to you. Playtest and see what you like better.
January 1, 2016 5:20 p.m.
yo izzetfanatic, i was wondering if you could help me with my tron deck. even though it is R/G, I think u may be able to help. I need to perfect it fast. Many thanks, Bugatti
January 3, 2016 5:25 p.m.
IzzetFanatic says... #15
@car: sure. What do you need help with? -Ral Zarek
January 4, 2016 1:35 p.m.
IzzetFanatic says... #16
@lemmingllama: hey sorry I just realized I never responded to your comment. (didn't even see it in fact). I like the pierce because it can counter things like Cranial Plating but it is a good idea. I'll have to think about it some more.
January 4, 2016 2:41 p.m.
lemmingllama says... #17
@IzzetFanatic No worries. Anyways, it was mainly due to your lack of hard counters. If you have a large amount of control type decks, Dispel can be more relevant. Really more of a meta call than anything.
Also if you really want to hit those cheaper cards, maybe look into Spell Snare. Hits Cranial Plating, Tarmogoyf, Terminate, and all those other goodies. Probably one of the best ways to recover from going second.
January 4, 2016 10:52 p.m.
IzzetFanatic says... #18
@lemmingllama: ok i'll try out Spellsnare. I have about 1 other deck at my LGS and I already wreck it consistently. Its like a rouge UB deck that is very budget. I am mostly dealing with burn, affinity, and some weird sorcery based aggro decks. For now the pierces are working out. Thanks for the suggestion.
January 4, 2016 11:01 p.m.
Is there any reason you play Talisman of Dominance over something like Dimir Signet?
January 6, 2016 10:46 p.m.
IzzetFanatic says... #20
@Scouty: Sorry for the delayed response. There isn't really a reason that I play the talisman over the Signet other then the fact that it's a little more flexible. For starters, it doesn't need mana to activate which is huge in a deck like this because we can turn 2 play the talisman and then be able to crack of a Spell Pierce on your opponents turn. This can be huge in games against decks like burn.I will try it out however and see which I like better. Thank your for the suggestion.
January 9, 2016 5 p.m.
ninjaclevs13 says... #23
Wow, what a great decklist. I would suggest building a huperbudget version for those out there that do not have a lot of cash. That is my only suggestion, great decklist!
Oh, and how do you change the background on your decks?
January 12, 2016 4:53 p.m.
ninjaclevs13 says... #25
Do you know the process? I know some html and css
IzzetFanatic says... #1
@WizdomCube: I have considered it but as of now I don't have anything I'd want to take out for it. The fact that you need double blue to make it effective is rough in a deck that's really colorless and splashing blue. Thank you for your suggestion though.
November 29, 2015 5:17 p.m.