Illness in the Orchard

Modern Imp_Storm

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SpartanCEL says... #1

For things to cut I'd say Sign in Blood. Not very good unless you're abusing draws. More tutoring is what I'd say.

Since you say your combo focuses around Forbidden Orchard then I'd definitely run a few Expedition Map. Up Tolaria West to 2?

The combo is too cute atm. 1-2 damage a turn won't kill anyone unless you prevent them from doing anything. Maybe more end game reach? Hunted Phantasm for 5/10 damage is insane. Add some blinking effects like Flickerwisp, Turn to Mist and Restoration Angel and you got some pain. If you go that route, maybe add some etb creatures to supplement the blinking

July 22, 2015 10:07 a.m.

AjMcGamer says... #2

Hey man, the deck looks sweet. If you are looking to abuse ETB effects Conjurer's Closet is a great once a turn engine and Geralf's Messenger is a nice flicker target. I actually used to run Conjurer's Closet + Thragtusk or Conjurer's Closet + Geralf's Messenger (the deck ran both) in standard and people had a hard time answering either if you got them rolling. Good luck with this deck and +1 from this guy.

July 22, 2015 11:01 a.m.

Imp_Storm says... #3

Kingofsouls Intruder alarm looks sweet but i dont know if ill run it here. Forbidden Orchard + Intruder Alarm + Wind Zendikon Is An interesting combo to build arround.

Demarge Ill look into adding Dispel and Victim of Night to the build. I like the fact that i can defend myself with bitterblossom early game, but i get what you are saying about it being really limited as a combo piece. Maybe add 2 collected company instead?

SpartanCEL Expedition Map is going to be added and west is up to 2. Sign in Blood keeps my hand stocked really well, but ill look into alternatives. Remand, Serum Visions, and tutors like Infernal Tutor. Turn to Mist i will work into the deck at some point, it is already in The white version of this deck.

ShiltonCDXX I have played Conjurer's Closet before and it is awesome, but the CC is higher than i whant to go for for this deck.

Thanks for the imput! Ill do what i can to incorporate some of the cards into the deck.

July 22, 2015 1:55 p.m.

Kingofsouls says... #4

@Imp_Storm You could also use in place of Wind Zendikon a Voyaging Satyr or Kiora's Follower. Both can tap to untap the Orchard, and then untap when the token hits play. Zendikon is the most unsafe in my opinion since it makes the Orchard a target for removal.

July 22, 2015 2:04 p.m.

Imp_Storm says... #5

Kingofsouls Much better idea. Ill save the idea for use. Really gave me an idea for a Twin Bleeder deck.

July 22, 2015 2:08 p.m.

Kingofsouls says... #6

NP. Happy to be of service.

July 22, 2015 2:09 p.m.

SpartanCEL says... #7

Imp_Storm if you realllllly want Sign in Blood, Night's Whisper is eaiser on the mana

July 22, 2015 4:10 p.m.

SpartanCEL says... #8

but you got some alternatives i see:)

July 22, 2015 4:11 p.m.

Imp_Storm says... #9

SpartanCEL Thanks for the suggestion. I use Sign in blood allot just because they are easy to get my hands on and this originally was built as mono black a year ago. Night's Wisper is an awesome alternative ill probably start useing in my builds in the future.

July 22, 2015 4:36 p.m.

electromancer says... #10

July 22, 2015 8:05 p.m.

Imp_Storm says... #11

electromancer Swapped. Good call. forgot about that card.

July 22, 2015 8:25 p.m.

Demarge says... #12

Victim of the night unfortunately doesn't always kill some deck's top end threats, mainly from jund's 4 drop options being vampire and werewolf.

And if you're running coco maybe try a build of this that is a little more creature heavy to help lower the life your combo needs to kill and help you fight on a utility level (in fact if you have the budget Dark Confidant would probably work better overall for the deck than those tutors).

July 23, 2015 7:48 p.m.

Kingofsouls says... #13

Depending on how much green he can get in a game a cheaper card is Chord of Calling. That triple green is pretty rough, but it lets you get any of your critters.

July 24, 2015 2:26 a.m.

Imp_Storm says... #14

Demarge Pardon my ignorance but what is the budget dark confidant? And i have added Dismember instead of Victim of night.

Kingofsouls Chord of calling doesnt seem to fit the build here. Immortal Servitude would fit better here.

July 25, 2015 8:34 p.m.

Demarge says... #15

I meant if you have the money, Dark Confidant would work great in here.

July 25, 2015 10:59 p.m.

Demarge says... #16

Death by tokens plays much smoother than this mostly because it uses multiple interactions of the combo with other cards, uses some means to protect the board state, and has other win conditions that can be combo'd into some extreme draw.

July 26, 2015 2:59 a.m.

Imp_Storm says... #17

Demarge I took a look at the deck and I agree. Im going to change a few things up. I also took a look at Pain Has An Element Of Blank, which was tagged in Death by tokens. Saw alot of ideas im going to explore.

July 26, 2015 12:25 p.m.

square711 says... #18

Disciple of the Vault needs to go away. It's only useful against one archetype, and it depends on another sideboard card to have any impact at all. You're supposed to have each sideboard card answer multiple threats, not play multiple sideboard cards to answer a single threat. Play Creeping Corrosion if Affinity worries you.

You have too many cards dedicated to killing tokens and nothing else, which isn't good - once you play an Illness in the Ranks or a Virulent Plague, each other copy you draw will be completely useless for the rest of the game. You may want to replace them with more versatile spells such as Bile Blight (don't need it for the tokens? Cast it on the opponent's other creatures instead!) or even Ensnaring Bridge (dump your hand, stall the board and win by pinging the opponent to death with Forbidden Orchard). After all, the tokens you create won't be the only thing your opponent will throw against you - they have threats of their own, which need to be dealt with.

July 26, 2015 7:07 p.m.

Imp_Storm says... #19

square711 I was looking into getting rid of Disiple of the vault, i just hadnt gotten to it. BUT I just did a swap. Should be a little more viable. I will look into other options dealing with the token cards. Im going to start with Ghostly Prison and work from there, tho im not too keen on adding a 4th color like this. I play arround and see what happens.

July 26, 2015 8:02 p.m.

Kingofsouls says... #20

What about Thespian's Stage. You can turn it into an Orchard and speed up the pinging.

July 27, 2015 1:12 p.m.

Imp_Storm says... #21

Kingofsouls Thought about it. When i was running it with an older version it seemed to actually slow the deck at times. All honestly you could go 3 different ways, run Thespian's Stage, Vesuva, or Tolaria West. They essentually do the same thing, which is netting you a forbidden orchard. I like running west just for the fact that it can tap for blue while giving mt the ability to pull a Orchard.

July 27, 2015 2:07 p.m.

aholder7 says... #22

i've had a deck like this actually called Salt Sisters, but the list on here isn't the completely updated one. but from my testing i can say that Virulent Plague should just be switched to more Ghostly Prisons. Suture Priest is also a great card for this deck. its a better Blood Seeker. Surgical Extraction is a sideboard card unless you have a lot of graveyard decks in your meta. Infernal Tutor seems like an odd choice for the deck and i'd be curious to hear what you mainly use it for (i imagine it's to pull extra copies of orchards). i don't think Sylvan Scrying is what you want in this deck. youre essentially wasting a slot and tempo by including this. the deck doesn't need the orchard to win, and it doesn't want to waste time casting spells to grab it. you'd probably be better off with another Serum Visions

October 15, 2016 10:01 p.m.

CharonSquared says... #23

I don't think the white splash is worth it. Murder Investigation only enchants creatures you control, so you're just asking your opponent to kill your creature in response to you targeting it. Ghostly Prison is decent but you're better off just tossing in a couple more removal spells.

October 15, 2016 11:56 p.m.

aholder7 says... #24

white also offers the option of adding the soul sisters.

October 16, 2016 1:23 a.m.

Lifa says... #25

I would remove the Virulent Plague for 2 Path to Exile. The tokens you're giving the opponent are all 1/1s so they die to Illness in the Ranks and I highly doubt people will have cards like Intangible Virtue unless they're a token deck.

I suggest Path to Exile because you need more hard removal for bigger creatures and path is one of the best for that.

Why Murmuring Bosk by the way? If you want a W/B land Caves of Koilos is better. I know Bosk also adds green but if you want the tri, Sandsteppe Citadel will function just as well because you don't run any treefolk anyways.

October 16, 2016 1:44 a.m. Edited.

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