As a fellow roon player I love ur deck, and I have a few suggestions
Hornet Queen is great in Roon, it gives so many tokens
I would also definitely add the Craterhoof Behemoth
Maybe add some more walkers
I would also run Palinchron or Great Whale
October 17, 2014 7:37 p.m.
TheFanatic says... #4
@vrajan Both Queen and Behemoth have been on my short list of cards to test for quite some time, especially Hornet Queen . Great Whale and Palinchron , on the other hand, are not in the deck because I am trying to avoid infinite combos. Thanks for your input!
October 17, 2014 9:22 p.m.
Bobbonelli says... #5
I run a slightly different version of Roon, I have a bunch of control cards in my list and I strongly suggest playing Familiar's Ruse anyway. Fiend Hunter is a very good tool, but you can also blink him in response to a sweeper in order to exile one of your ETB causing that ETB to trigger again. I may suggest Riptide Laboratory (Prime Speaker Zegana , Glen Elendra Archmage , Mistmeadow Witch , Prophet of Kruphix , Sea Gate Oracle and Venser, Shaper Savant , to re-trigger etb or just to save them from removal spells) and Body Double (you won't run an infinite combo anyway, but it's a huge recursion imho). I find Snapcaster Mage 's a huge, huge card in the deck.
November 3, 2014 1:33 p.m.
Hickorysbane says... #6
Containment Priest would essentially shut down your engines but let Roon exile things at will until someone dealt with it (which they would kinda have to do, so you'd get to go back to normal playstyle soon enough, or just slowly wipe their board and win)
November 6, 2014 11:14 p.m.
Indigoindigo says... #7
Wouldn't Sundial of the Infinite serve the same purpose without shutting down Roon?
Congrats on 50 upvotes! Any cards you find a bit underwhelming and consider replacing, or is the deck solid in most matchups?
November 7, 2014 10:17 a.m.
TheFanatic says... #8
@PrecintSix6Six Containment Priest is just far too anti-synergistic with the deck to be viable. It's an interesting idea, though.
@Indigoindigo Sundial of the Infinite was at one point in the deck. I ended up cutting it for Survival of the Fittest for obvious reasons.I would say the deck is solid in basically all matchups, assuming you're in a relatively casual commander environment that isn't aggressively combo-oriented. If combos are your meta, I'd recommend adding things like Palinchron and counterspells to the deck.
November 7, 2014 1:50 p.m.
Indigoindigo says... #9
How is Brutalizer Exarch, Deadwood Treefolk, Perplexing Chimera and Soul of the Harvest performing for you? I recently cut all but the Soul in my list, but I might cut that one as well. The Exarch has a high CMC compared to War Priest of Thune and Reclamation Sage for removal, and I'm not sure if the 6 mana for a tutor is great value either. Same with the Treefolk, a bit expensive for a worse Eternal Witness-effect, and Soul of the Harvest is an underperformer so far.
November 21, 2014 6:16 a.m.
TheFanatic says... #10
Brutalizer Exarch isn't the best card ever, but its ability to tuck planeswalkers (new commanders!) and lands makes it valuable. I rarely use the Worldly Tutor effect, but it's there in a pinch.
Deadwood Treefolk definitely underperforms. I like that it has an LTB ability in addition to its ETB, but it's not the best. I wouldn't know what to replace it with, though.
Perplexing Chimera has consistently been good for me, I'll definitely keep it.
Soul of the Harvest is a bit slow, but the potential is so great that I think I'll keep it until a better option with the same general effect comes along.
November 21, 2014 9:47 a.m.
Indigoindigo says... #11
Would swap Deadwood Treefolk with Brago, King Eternal. He's been great for me, and in several games he can blink a lot of creatures for free. Other alternatives is Champion of Lambholt for beating face, Trostani's Summoner for 9 power per blink (or Hornet Queen for defence). If it's recursion you want, try the combo with Saffi Eriksdotter: Evoke Reveillark, activate Saffi, get both Saffi, Ark and another creature back.
November 21, 2014 11:15 a.m.
ExpectDragons says... #12
might want to drop the multiplayer hub, scrapped my roon deck after it performed great 1v1 but had very limited interaction in group games which of course is how the vast majority of EDH is played.
November 21, 2014 11:45 a.m.
MindAblaze says... #13
I think without Seedborn Muse or Prophet of Kruphix out, Roon can be underwhelming, but the overall synergy can make up for it.
In what ways did you feel your deck had limited interaction?
November 21, 2014 12:07 p.m.
ExpectDragons says... #14
the majority of what roon does focusses on one target or one player which just doesn't work in group play, you also sacrifice power & numbers for synergy so win conditions become limited if any
November 21, 2014 2:59 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #15
Ahh, so by only focusing on one opponent at a time it felt like you weren't doing anything, especially when there are so many underwhelming effects out there that didn't seem to get you much closer to a win.
I'd like to see what TheFanatic says about this, but that's why I run stuff like Rishadan Footpad. Trying to hit all the players at once can be complicated though.
November 21, 2014 3:09 p.m.
TheFanatic says... #16
@PooPlayer and @MindAblaze!
I definitely see how you could think that Roon is bad in multiplayer. While I will admit that he isn't the most powerful general in the world, I do think he is viable in multiplayer. This build is 100% a control deck, and so I find that usually my win condition is simply controlling the board to the point where either my opponents concede or I can start to attack them down one by one while simultaneously removing their threats. You are right, though, in saying that this deck focuses largely on dealing with threats one at a time. Maybe I should add more cards like Luminate Primordial and Terastodon to help with that problem. Hornet Queen could be good as well, as it would quickly be able to create an army when repeatedly flickered. Craterhoof Behemoth might provide another strong win condition, especially in conjunction with Hornet Queen or Avenger of Zendikar. I'll think on it.
November 21, 2014 4:30 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #17
I want to clarify, I don't think Roon is bad in multiplayer. The deck just doesn't have as much success trying to play as aggro as say...my Mayael deck does. That being said, I can swarm Golem tokens fairly well in my build.
November 21, 2014 4:38 p.m.
TheFanatic says... #19
@azbycx I used to run Restoration Angel, but I've found that one-time, one-card flicker effects aren't really good enough for grindy multiplayer games.
December 13, 2014 4:31 p.m.
have you considered the card Dual Nature? it's a fun card that works great with almost every creature in roon
December 15, 2014 2:06 a.m.
TheFanatic says... #21
@korndude I've never seen that card before, and it looks really cool! The problem is that it's a symmetrical effect, and I'm not really looking to help my opponents double the value they get off their creatures as well.
December 15, 2014 1:56 p.m.
ToTheMaxTG says... #22
Im not even kidding, I named my room deck this, back before it was disband....
December 30, 2014 11:43 p.m.
You've probably already considered these but I'm just going to leave these here for potential flicker targets anyway: Archaeomancer, Lavinia of the Tenth, Nevermaker & Thragtusk.
January 15, 2015 12:01 a.m.
Indigoindigo says... #24
Any thoughts on cards from FRF to include? Whisperwood Elemental might be good with a blink engine out (especially Ghostway or Brago, King Eternal)
January 15, 2015 12:54 a.m.
ExpectDragons says... #25
not really, bounce a manifest card and it's a non permanent when flipped back up it'll just fizzle and again harps back to my original qualm with playing Roon in multiplayer EDH. In that he can only tag one thing at a time with creatures relying on ETB effects that do little in multiplayer as they focus on one permanent/player rather than the board. Not to mention the lack of power those creatures possess putting you on the back foot, 2/2's on the field will not help in that respect.
TheFanatic says... #1
You would put Dark Confidant as the title and your description where I wrote "your content".
September 8, 2014 8:25 p.m.