lagotripha says... #2
Have you considered something like Eternal Witness or Thragtusk in place of Body Double, so that your clones bring back collected company or your illusions gain you five life and drop a 3/3? Get either on the battlefield and thats a lot of value.
August 26, 2015 10:36 a.m.
wbroomhead says... #3
Thank you for the suggestion lagotripha! I like the idea of Eternal Witness, because it can be cheated out with Collected Company, so I'll try that out! Unfortunately if I hit Eternal Witness with Collected Company it won't let me return CoCo, but it does seem better than Body Double in this deck. Again, thank you!
August 27, 2015 10:24 a.m.
I actually was under the impression that Eternal Witness would grab Collected Company. As a matter of fact, the Wizards folks themselves suggested that one here. So I think Witness would be great here.
August 27, 2015 10:59 a.m.
Jimmy_Chinchila says... #5
Clever Impersonator could fit. Maybe some more flash enablers like Savage Summoning, Prophet of Kruphix, Yeva, Nature's Herald. That way you can hold them and drop all at once, or one and 3 copy spells. Gonna have a huge target. Maybe more maindeck countermagic, Spell Pierce is a good one. Maybe substitute for the Probe. Cool deck, +1
August 27, 2015 11:19 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #6
Yes, Eternal Witness will bring back the same Collected Company you used to cheat her into play. The reason being is because once Collected Company's ability resolves (ie, you start looking at the top of your library), the card goes into your graveyard.
August 28, 2015 12:21 a.m.
Chord of Calling might be better than Summoner's Pact in here
September 8, 2015 5:01 p.m.
lagotripha says... #9
Also, alt wincon- Wild Beastmaster since the copies buff each other in order its gonna give your creatures a massive boost with just 3
September 9, 2015 4:30 a.m.
So... Surgical Extraction hurts pretty bad, huh? Or even worse, the new Infinite Obliteration.
September 9, 2015 6:06 p.m.
i tried to break this card in a very similar deck with collected, I even put chord in, but i think that your deck is better. I do think the addition Weird Harvest is great
September 10, 2015 12:52 p.m.
wbroomhead says... #13
In response to recent suggestions:
I'm considering Spell Pierce, just having trouble of what to take out for it. It's an excellent card mainboard to help protect from kill spells, however I would like to get as many hits with CoCo as possible, so I'm trying to stick to creatures.
Mitotic Manipulation is the same situation as above, where I would like to run it, but for consistency's sake I would rather hit more options with CoCo.
Wild Beastmaster Is a great alternate win-con, you're right! It also may help in case of Surgical Extraction (Yeah, it's pretty awful Killkow). I'll consider it instead of maybe one of the clone creatures, or possibly in the sideboard.
I actually had Rite of Replication in the original version of this deck, but it was unfortunately too slow. I could see a different version of this deck, which could be quasi-control, and has Rite as the win-con. However, for my purposes, I will refrain from it.
Thank you all for your suggestions and upvotes!!!!!!!
:)
September 10, 2015 12:57 p.m.
wbroomhead says... #14
samosjuju I had that in the original version of my deck (Gifts Ungiven style), and when I made the switch to CoCo I took it out. I agree, it's an excellent card! Thank you for the suggestion.
September 10, 2015 12:59 p.m.
Cackling Counterpart? Instant speed cloning allows you to win on your opponent's end step.
Also, if you're primarily using Simic Charm for hexproof, I recommend Plaxmanta. It can be hit via CoCo, triggered via a clone, and doesn't require green for the effect.
September 11, 2015 5:24 p.m.
Oh man, this is nice! I've been considering building my own "Biovisionary" deck and this is awesome inspiration.
Thanks for sharing it!
Blessings
Josh
September 11, 2015 11:25 p.m.
wbroomhead says... #17
Excellent suggestions JagonFel! I'll consider both, but I'll definitely switch out the Simic Charm. Thank you!
Thank you so much Heajos, glad you enjoy it!
September 12, 2015 12:52 p.m.
[Cryptoplasm] offers some nasty shenanigans with [Progenitor Mimic]. Progenitor copies Crypto plus the engine ability. Next turn Crypto copies the Progenitor copy with the added engine ability. So npw you have two Progenitors with Cryptoplasm's upkeep shift ability.
[Fated Infatuation] is nice for the scry effect and instant speed flexibility.
[Polymorphous Rush] also offers a lot of utility. Swings the board with [Acidic Slime]. Also, with how many mama dorks (and potentially clones of mana dorks) you can have, casting it for 5 shouldn't be difficult. And that should be all you'd need. It's also instant speed. Slime and [Sylvan Caryatid] make great targets that aren't [Biovisionary].
September 15, 2015 1:14 p.m.
I tried a Biovisionary-Birthing Pod deck when the pod was legal. One thing I did try was Polymorphous Rush. It seems wonky but with mana dorks available, it can easily be cast for the needed amount and actually steals a lot of games in this sort of deck. Maybe I'm wrong. Give it a whirl.
September 24, 2015 4:50 p.m.
Woah im loving it! I was trying to create Biovisionary deck, but it wasn't so successfull like this. <3
I think one Gemstone Caverns won't hurt, and some Leyline of Sanctity in Sideboard can REALLY help against certain decks.
September 24, 2015 5:05 p.m.
I think for this deck Privileged Position might be a little better than Leyline of Sanctity.
September 24, 2015 5:44 p.m.
@Happymaster19 it depends. I playtested it some times, and i have more problems with decks that discards your hands than, against that targets your creatures, and Leyline of Sanctity helps with first situation, cause it gives YOU (player) hexproof.
September 24, 2015 6:30 p.m.
In a deck with over a dozen Biovisionaries and the means to tutor them and revive them, discarding one doesn't hurt.
September 24, 2015 6:57 p.m.
wbroomhead says... #24
Thanks for the comments guys! :D
So Meridion, glad you love it! Gemstone Caverns is great in most decks, I'll probably switch out a Hinterland Harbor for it. For Leyline of Sanctity, I had it in the original version of the deck (4 of, actually!), and I loved having it, however got rid of it when I switched to Simic from Bant. However, with Mana Dorks, I think I could run it again! Thank you!
And Happymaster19, I understand how good Privileged Position is, but I choose to run Plaxmanta for hexproof purposes. I agree with you regarding discard, as well! Thanks for the suggestion!
September 24, 2015 7:30 p.m.
If You are putting Leyline of Sanctity back i would sugest to exchange one forrest/island/other land for Hallowed Fountain or Temple Garden. If u dont start with Leyline in opening hand they will help to cast it, and u can easly find them with Misty RainforestWindswept Heath or Flooded Strand.
Sylvan Caryatid are also something to think about. Cryptoplasm could copy them, and gain Hexproof.
wbroomhead says... #1
I've considered running Infinite Reflection before, it just ends up being too slow for the style of deck I'm running. Most of my creatures are either copies of Biovisionary or a mana dork, and Infinite Reflection doesn't do too much. I'll consider it for the sideboard against grindier matchups, but thank you for your suggestion!
August 25, 2015 10:58 p.m.