Imma Let You Finish But........

Modern* ChiefBell

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CricketYT says... #1

I made a junk list forever ago, but it sucked. I looked at a lot of lists, including yours, and now it has evolved to be quite good. it's pretty similar, but if you'd like to take a look, it's A Modern BandWagon.

June 1, 2015 5:50 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #2

Tell me if the background is annoying and you want it removed :)

June 6, 2015 6:49 p.m.

I quite like it. How do you install backgrounds?

June 6, 2015 8:05 p.m.

Femme's likely going to get pissed, but whatever. Doesn't lag for me. What background is it though?

June 6, 2015 8:06 p.m.

Jamesfurrow says... #5

That background is awsome!!! I love it man don't ever remove it

June 6, 2015 8:28 p.m.

bigguy99 says... #6

It's decent. Quality's not too great, but whatever. Not flashy and annoying like all the other shit people put up.

June 7, 2015 midnight

Kjartan says... #7

No Choke?

June 14, 2015 3:54 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #8

Decent matchup versus Twin and Delver. Maybe useful against control but it barely exists. I'll consider it but I dont know what exactly to take out.

June 14, 2015 3:58 p.m.

bigguy99 says... #9

You definitely want Choke now. Grixis Control/Twin is getting really popular.

June 14, 2015 4:39 p.m.

Kjartan says... #10

ChiefBell the thing is that you have thrun in maybeboard. I just think Choke is stronger. But thrun is much more fun and not as duechy indeed.

June 15, 2015 3:28 a.m.

ChiefBell says... #11

But I mean the decks that Choke would help against I already have good matchups against anyway. Delver folds hard to Abrupt Decay and Tarmogoyf. Twin is easy because you can out tempo them and hold up removal they can't counter. Both of those matchups aren't massive concerns. I used to play Thrun only against heavy control decks because theyre the only ones that can hold up enough countermagic to irritate me. The rest of the bunch are just fine.

No disrespect to twin or delver - theyre both great decks but neither are well equipped to deal with a barrage of hand attack spells and uncounterable killspells. Neither have decent winrates versus Abzan or Jund.

Edit: Not when I'm playing anyway.

June 15, 2015 6:49 a.m. Edited.

tooTimid says... #12

Have you seen Willy Edel's list from the GP yesterday? I only watched one match, but it seemed like he had just cut Siege Rhino for Dark Confidant. He was also playing some number of Go for the Throat. What are your thoughts on this?

June 15, 2015 11:52 a.m.

Femme_Fatale says... #13

That is a bad idea ... Dark Confidant in a meta where 3 of the top decks run red?

June 15, 2015 12:07 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #14

Yeah Dark Confidant is back and better than ever. With all the life gain that you get from scooze and rhino, and an average cmc of just a tad over 2 you can easily support him. His best feature is just that you win so much quicker because you can slam down multiple removal and creature spells per turn and keep your hand stocked up healthily. I've been having way more fun with my DC version of this deck than this current version here.

June 15, 2015 12:12 p.m.

Upward-SaGa says... #15

After scrolling through some of these comments about Dromoka's Command, Choke, and Thrun, the Last Troll i'd like to add some experienced input about them as a junk player running a very similar list myself.

Dromoka's Command is a super strong card against the growing American/Grixis control decks. Yes, the removal factor is iffy, but a Keranos, God of Storms is literally a middle finger to Junk in a game of attrition. You only have 2 answers for it in the main (Thoughtseize, but that's also before it hits the board. Post SB you have Leyline of Sanctity, too. Yeah, you have some decent lifegain in the main as well as post SB, but often it's not enough to win that attrition war. Command gets rid of it AND stops a bolt/helix. Red is a growing color in Modern again, and it would only make sense to adjust to it with at least one solid answer for it even though you can beat it. Makes the win that much easier.

Choke faded out of Modern for a bit as blue weakened for awhile. But now it's back with a vengeance of some versatile UWx midrange, Twin, Grixis delver/control, etc. Choke has literally won me games against them. They just can't come back after a blue tap out for snappy flash backs, lighthouse activations, etc. then i leave them with one island open at max.

Thrun, the Last Troll has also been losing value in my board. I side him in against the control matchups, however as he said it's just not as devastating anymore. They often Vendilion Clique him, or get rid of him after regenerate has been activated. I might replace him with Sigarda, Host of Herons.

Blood Baron of Vizkopa is an incredible answer for junk/jund mirror. Jund has a really rough time dealing with him. He's practically immune to removal in the junk mirror.

Extirpate in the board has also helped loads against control, Tron, and combo decks. Maybe consider it as a 2 of in the side?

If you could, also check out my deck No, this is my Junk

June 15, 2015 12:57 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #16

Never thought about Domoka's C against Keranos. Thanks for that tip!

June 15, 2015 1:11 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #17

Yep! It's changed from a midrange deck to a heavier control deck. Lost a lot of life gain and board presence. Gained more card draw and a few more removal options.

The life gain / board presence problem is answered in some part by Sorin who gives us infinite lifelink tokens (it's his + ability).

I don't like siege rhino and I won't play him again. I want a 4-drop that dodges removal spells.

It's just a totally different deck to the how it started.

July 26, 2015 11:06 a.m.

bigguy99 says... #18

Is Vault of the Archangel still good?

July 26, 2015 11:11 a.m.

ChiefBell says... #19

It can be the death touch you need when you need it. I'm unsure though. Could become a Stirring Wildwood

July 26, 2015 11:18 a.m.

This deck seems almost suicidal. With Bob, Thoughtseize, and a full fetch / shock mana base, I don't think it'll take much to kill you if you don't kill yourself. Now, no questions asked, this deck is still good, but I think you need at a minimum a good source of lifegain in the sideboard, and probably even in the mainboard. And no, I don't count sorin because he doesn't gain you that much life, especially because he takes 4 life if you bob into him. I don't think 3 mainboard Finks would be a bad idea.

Is it just me, or will burn stomp this deck 95% of the time? It just seems like a horrible matchup with a lot of life loss and very little life gain. I may be wrong, but I don't see how siding in 1 timely reinforcements and 1 feed the clan will make any difference.

July 26, 2015 11:20 a.m.

ChiefBell says... #21

Perhaps you aren't aware that the more suicidal Jund decks are currently among the top decks in the meta? These decks are around, and they do very, very well. The main thing is that creature based aggro just can't do much against an onslaught of constant Path to Exile and Abrupt Decay. It's actually fairly effective.

Overall burn, and aggro in general doesn't stomp it at all. Feed the Clan, Dromoka's Command, Leyline of Sanctity and Timely Reinforcements do the job fine. Alternating between preventing damage and gaining you life.

You also can choose to play Dark Confidant as merely a chump blocker instead of opting for it to stay on the field. It blocks a Goblin Guide just fine. Furthermore, the average cmc of the deck is around 2 and therefore you're really not losing that much life. Furthermore Thoughtseize isn't actually life loss. If you Thoughtseize away a Lightning Bolt you've gained 1 life. Thoughtseize a Goblin Guide and you've broken even, but potentially gained a lot in the long run.

Edited: first sentence sounded more sarcastic than I meant.

July 26, 2015 11:29 a.m. Edited.

ChiefBell says... #22

Yeah! I ran that for a while actually! I went back to extra seize because Tron kicks my ass sometimes, and so does bloom.

It was like really good 95% of the time but absolutely awful 5% of the time.

July 26, 2015 11:36 a.m.

Yeah, that makes some sense. The Jund decks I've seen have significantly more mainboard and sideboard lifegain though, and their main 4-drop, Huntmaster of the Fells  Flip, gains them life immediately as well as board presence to stop the rush. I also forgot that Bob is a fine chump blocker if he needs to be. So I guess burn won't stomp you, but it still looks somewhat unfavorable at a glance.

The sorin seems a little odd to me, but I guess it could work. I am a fan of brewing and experimenting, so we'll go with it. It is certainly unconventional, but your reasoning for running it seems sound.

July 26, 2015 11:46 a.m.

ChiefBell says... #24

It is not favourable but it is doable.

Sorin is an odd choice but playing him amuses me.

July 26, 2015 12:03 p.m.

Speaking of jund, how do you usually fare against it?

July 26, 2015 12:12 p.m.

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