I'll put another Thrun, the Last Troll in the side.
No countering and hexproof with regenerate makes him a valuable card. He can stop oncoming fatties and is impossible to remove without Damnation. This gives me time to draw into killspells or Vault of the Archangel or something else.
September 22, 2015 9:15 a.m.
What would you say about adding Siege Rhino into your deck?
September 30, 2015 10:04 a.m.
I don't understand =) (I'm not english-man). Write more understandable, please :)
September 30, 2015 11:31 a.m.
Rigol: What language do you speak? Which country?
September 30, 2015 12:26 p.m.
I removed Siege Rhino because I do not like creatures that die to kill-spells. Siege Rhino is hit by Dismember, Path to Exile, Terminate.
I like creatures that cannot be hit by kill-spells so I play Thrun, the Last Troll.
Try google translate if you don't understand this :)
September 30, 2015 12:42 p.m.
While I can agree with the removal of Siege Rhino, I find your reasonings to be poor.
Thrun, the Last Troll is your only creature that does NOT die to a kill spell, so I don't really understand where you were going with that.
Sure, Siege Rhino can die to a kill spell, but you still got a Lightning Helix,and that's real game.
September 30, 2015 2:20 p.m.
Neither Kitchen Finks nor Thragtusk are 1-for-1'able with killspells. Thru can't be targeted. Sorin, Lord of Innistrad can't be targeted.
Goyf is goyf.
I played Voice of Resurgence instead of scooze but the manabase didn't allow it. Had to go back.
The two drops are too important to screw with but the 3, 4, and 5 mana stuff is specifically designed to not be 1-for-1'able.
September 30, 2015 2:31 p.m.
Sorry kameenook, I did explain poorly the first time around.
September 30, 2015 2:35 p.m.
I love such cretures too. Can you help me with them in UWR, please. UWRestoration
October 8, 2015 11:11 a.m.
Eliiiiiiiiiiiiiiza says... #12
November 30, 2015 9:50 a.m.
ToolmasterOfBrainerd says... #16
Have you ever considered Gaddock Teeg in the sideboard for the tron matchup? It could potentially help it a lot, although dying to Pyroclasm is a hit, but hand disruption....
January 1, 2016 7:23 p.m.
BlackScar47 says... #17
Love the deck, but I would recommend 4 Scavenging Ooze to deal with $20 aggro decks that beat it 2-1. Here is my results after playtesting this against my Mono-Red Aggrofacts deck;
1st Game: Your deck took the game, it had 2 IoK in the opening hand, and it just killed all my creatures along with the Lili and the Maelstrom Pulse.
2nd Game: Went out horrible for your deck, had no lands. I ended up just wrecking it.
3rd Game: At first you had no lands, but then you killed my Signal Pest, put down a Scavenging Ooze, and played a Lili. I had a Goblin Wardriver, so tthe lost Signal Pest didn't cause me much trouble. I immediately Arc Trailed your 2/2 SO, and the Lili wasn't a problem. You were able to play a Siege Rhino, but I used my Panic Spellbomb to prevent it from blocking and swung for the win!
I have to say again, great deck! I can see you spent a lot of time on it. And maybe a Surgical Extraction or two in the SB?
February 17, 2016 6:39 p.m.
Sideboard changed.
Choke comes out due to Twin ban. Thoughtseize comes out due to lack of combo decks.
2 Damnation goes in due to aggro.
1 Feed the Clan is swapped for 1 Kitchen Finks due to need to block creatures as well as gain life.
February 24, 2016 7:31 a.m.
I have a 1 of Languish to answer tricky threats but the main board clear will always be Damnation just because occasionally the opponent will have Wurmcoil Engine or a 5/5 Endless One etc.
February 24, 2016 8:49 a.m.
Definitely not. Classic abzan wants to control the game and take things slow, not ramp into it quickly.
March 14, 2016 5:37 p.m.
ToolmasterOfBrainerd says... #23
Interesting new direction. Anafanza and Loxodon are interesting tech, but I have to say I like them. Looks very well-tuned for the new meta.
Just one question: how did you get the multi-word names for your custom categories?
And one piece of advice: having the creatures in 2 separate categories is kinda annoying to be honest. Even if they serve different functions, it makes the layout confusing to a non-bgx player and, to be honest, I think putting Lingering Souls in with the rest of the creatures is just fine.
List looks good!
March 14, 2016 7:55 p.m.
I think that Abzan needs to play to its strengths and those strengths include the ability to run hyper-efficient creatures. It's all well and good running utility like Kalitas but if the opponent is playing threats that negate his lifelink AND can successfully block him for less mana then obviously it puts pressure on the Kalitas player. Playing a deck that actively threatens the opponent at all points in the game is a great thing. Can you imagine T1 Thoughtseize into T2 Tarmogoyf into T3 Anafenza, the Foremost, into T4 Siege Rhino?
Another thing I like about the three-drop choices is that, like Scavenging Ooze they present both utility and beats. Loxodon smiter is obviously quite nice against Lili and will probably be great if Control and Delver come back. Anafenza has been put in there just to help with Dredge, Living End, and other GY shenanigans.
Multi-word categories are done using an underscore between the words.
I put all the threats into one category.
Also note my sweet 18/18 split between control and threat cards. This is like the ultimate non-committal deck. Hopefully able to adapt to a huge variety of things.
ChiefBell says... #1
The problem I have is that I can't actually cast voice early in the game. It is almost impossible for this deck to produce B on T1 for discard amd then GW on T2 for voice.
September 22, 2015 3:56 a.m.