I mean unless you have some way to proliferate then Everflowing Chalice costs 2 to produce 1 colorless just doesnt seem like a worthy investment

Yeah ok that's a fair point. What do you think about reanimate though? Is it worth it?

I think its a good card especially if you happen to have to discard your hand at some point

Saw Haunted Crossroads today and thought of your deck. You probably don't even need it, but it's an interesting thought for if you loose sheoldred.

Interesting deck. Personally I prefer a little more removal, say Murder , Duplicant , and Spine of Ish Sah . Then again my meta is different. I might suggest Living Death , if you drop it early, you can really own the game.

Take a look at my deck Queen of the Dead, Oppressor of All, and comment any ideas you might have.

Phyrexian Tribute ? Seriously? Steel Hellkite would do such a better job. You should also consider cards such as: Bloodgift Demon (a Phyrexian Arena on a stick), Body Snatcher (to get high end creatures from your hand into your graveyard and then into play), Dark Impostor (for those creatures that just need to be exiled), Dread (to keep your opponents off your back), Myojin of Night's Reach (to cripple your opponent's hand at instant speed), Sorin Markov (if your playgroup allows him), Necromancy (which is comparable to your already present Animate Dead ), Gilded Lotus , Barter in Blood (the poor man's Damnation ), Karn Liberated (to deal with problem permanents e.g. artifacts/enchantments), and finally: Disciple of Bolas (to replenish your hand and life total, plus; the creature can be reanimated again by Sheoldred anyway...).

Definitely some good ideas and points here, I'll certainly consider them.

Myojin of Night's Reach is something I've always liked the look of and have considered for this deck, however the fact that he only receives a counter if I play him from my hand is what put me off, as this deck plays out of the graveyard so much.

I'm running Phyrexian Tribute as a bit of an experiment right now. Game changing artifacts and enchantments are definitely the easiest way to screw over this deck, as I find it so hard to deal with them.I'm running Phyrexian Tribute because while it is a crappy card, it is more reliable for removal than Steel Hellkite who can be removed/blocked etc before he gets the opportunity to remove anything. That said, Phyrexian Tribute is pretty bad, and Steel Hellkite is an amazing card that I should probably try running.

If I could afford to buy Karn Liberated I'd put him in in a heartbeat.

I've thought about Sorin Markov before, however he doesn't really seem to fit in with the deck outside of his -3 ability, and while my playgroup would probably allow his use, I'd still feel like a tool for running him just for that.

Not sure I need Gilded Lotus with the other ramp I have available but it's definitely not a bad idea. I really should be running Bloodgift Demon and Necromancy , I don't know why I'm not...

I do like the look Barter in Blood , Body Snatcher , Dark Impostor and Disciple of Bolas i hadn't considered them before, but I probably should. I can also see Dread possible taking a spot.

Thanks!

If you like Lashwrithe , you may also want to play Nightmare Lash . Also, I don't know how you prefer to play EDH, as everyone has preferences and groups that have different levels of what's fun/acceptable, but I would like to see All Is Dust , Black Sun's Zenith and Damnation in here. I know they're not the cheapest cards, and you may not need them. But with the graveyard love you have it seems like it wouldn't be bad.

+1 though, mono colored EDH are a fun challenge to make.

Thanks for the +1 iOnlyUseBigGuns! Monocoloured has definitely proved more challenging than I expected.

I like Nightmare Lash , I'll see if I can pick one up. Don't know if I need it as well as lashwrithe, but it's inexpensive and I might find a spot for it.

I think you might be right about Black Sun's Zenith , I have been thinking about re-adding either it or Mutilate recently. I'll play around with it.

As soon as I am able to get my hands on a Damnation I'll stick one in. I'll get one one day...

I hadn't even considered All Is Dust but I think it's an excellent idea, being able to wipe enchantments as well as creatures would definitely be a welcome utility considering I'm mono black.

Thanks!

If you like swamps (doesn't everyone?), then Korlash, Heir to Blackblade would work well in mono-black decks. Even without it's Grandeur effect, smacking a Lashwrithe on him can already double his stats. Regenerate just makes him that much more resilient.

Yeah he's a big dude for cheap, and the regenerate is nice.

I have been considering Nightmare recently, which is better, flying or regenerate? Hmmmmm...

The more I think about it the more I realize this deck needs It That Betrays . It procs of sacrificing, it ruins opponents like noting else.

If you put it in I will lament playing against this deck just a little more.

Even more so if you put in All Is Dust .

The only thing stopping me from adding All Is Dust is your artifact deck.

I have thought that It That Betrays might not be a bad idea...

To be fair a lot of Wub Wub's wonders. are colored.

If you can get your hands on a Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed , he's awesome in Mono-Black EDH, as it not only pulls back creatures, but can grab things like Exsanguinate back.

Reign of the Pit is a really neat card too.

I hadn't really considered Xiahuo. I have thought many times that I wish I had a way to get non-creatures back, and he is an interesting solution, especially as I can keep regenerating him. I'll see if I can pick one up and try it out, thanks!

Reign of the pit is undeniably powerful, and a card I have been meaning on testing out for a while.

Thanks for the help! :)

awesome to see a sheoldred build, she was my first legendary! I loved her, she was soooo goood. (I played casual then so it seemed like an automatic victory). +1!

Thanks!

Haha, I couldn't believe my eyes when I first read her abilities back when I was starting out. HAD to build a deck around her!

This deck looks veeeery evil, +1 from me! Play Soul of New Phyrexia and Recurring Nightmare (is this unbanned in EDH?) for some more flavor for this deck?

Seeing that you play 30 Swamps, do you really need Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth in this deck? Maybe you want to cut it and play something like Thawing Glaciers or the Phyrexia's Core + Spine of Ish Sah combo instead? Magus of the Coffers as a second Cabal Coffers? Withered Wretch for some more graveyard hate?

Contamination is a great lockdown card for mono-black and Solemn Simulacrum goes very well with Sheoldred's reanimator ability and your multiple Grave Pacts. Urborg Justiceis another Grave Pact effect that can catch your opponents by surprise as they don't see it coming. Victimize seems like a nice addition for this deck, too.

Wow, That's a ton of suggestions! Thank you!

Afraid Recurring Nightmare is still banned :(

You're right in that I don't really need urborg, but I like how it turns on Sheoldred's Swampwalk. I win with her commander damage surprisingly often.

Thawing glaciers is something I've been considering for some time, I need to pick one up at some stage and just try it out.

I used to run solemn simulacrum. Not entirely sure why I cut it, but I think the sad robot was a little outclassed. Still... being able to reanimate him on repeat is good, I might have to reconsider him.

I should probably pick up a contamination to run here...just so mean.

Hadn't even seen Urborg Justice before, that's cool!

I used to run victimize. I really love the card but it was a little slow. Needing 3 targets is quite demanding, though it is very explosive.

Any recommendations on what you think should be cut? That is the hardest part!

Yeah, I know cutting is the hardest part. When I play my decks I always try to make some notes while I am playing about cards that lived up to their expectations or that turned out to be a dud.

Possible cuts I see in your deck:
Extraplanar Lens or Caged Sun - You have so many mana doublers in the deck and not very many cards that can make good use of huge amounts of mana (like X-spells). That's why I would play only one of these.
Wound Reflection - Does this card really live up to it's expectations? I have never played with it, but with all the fat you have in your deck it looks a bit like a win-more card to me.
Phyrexian Reclamation - I really like this card, but it only returns the creatures into your hand and you have many other reanimators in the deck that put the creatures directly into play.
Painful Quandary - That card looks a bit out of place in your deck I think. I have usually cut this from my EDH decks because it only really prevents your opponents from playing stuff once they are at 5 life or less and then they are already dead.
Animate Dead - I found this card to be not good enough for my EDH decks, especially if you have so many other cards already in your deck that can do the job better.

Btw, I can really recommend the Phyrexia's Core + Spine of Ish Sah I have written about in my last post for any mono-black deck! It is one of the few combos for mono-black that can get rid of non-creatures. I've seen so many opponents cry once I got it online...

Strong build!I only can think of more card draw, such as Underworld Connections

Tomahawk-Bang You're probably right, I probably don't need so many mana doublers, but I'm addicted to mana! I need as much as I can get!

Wound Reflection is one of my favourite cards so I'm probably a bit biased toward it. It is a little awkward in the deck as it doesn't really contribute to the deck's style that heavily, but I've also won some games by attacking in and then dropping it in the second main phase for double damage. I'll consider dropping it.

I love Phyrexian Reclamation. Returning to hand isn't so bad as I often have a ton of mana, and the fact that it is repeatable is a big deal as I usually can't rely on Sheoldred for reanimation.

I think you might be right about Painful Quandary, it is the most out of place card in the deck. I've had my eye on it for a while. It can really punish a lot of decks though.

I'm not really that excited about Animate Dead either, but I feel like i need some form of cheap and reliable reanimation for when I manage to get a fatty into the graveyard super early. I prefer Victimize over it as you suggested, but it just isn't as reliable early.

I hadn't even thought of combining spine with phyrexia's core before you mentioned it. I just took spine out for karn but I might have to consider finding a spot again. My only concern is that the core seems pretty useless without spine, and I like to have as many swamps as possible for cards like Extraplanar Lens and Crypt Ghast.

GobboE Thanks for taking a look! I do like connections, you really can't have too much card draw. Unfortunately It's harder to remove cards than to add them!