PasorofMuppets says... #2
As a two of though, if I don't see it game 1, I don't think they'll be siding against it; however, I'll try out Cathedral of War . It's just kind of crappy to draw it any later than turn five because if all is going well it's just slowing me down by coming into play tapped. I think, overall inkmoth will be the better choice because one trigger of exalted isn't necessairly worth potentially messing up my curve.
July 12, 2012 2:12 p.m.
Nice idea. Why I was so fool before, never got this kind of idea. Human weenie with rancor.
Pretty fast, but if you don't win really fast, do you have backup plan for mid or late game?
July 12, 2012 8:59 p.m.
PasorofMuppets says... #4
Not really, unfortunately. Post board wipe, Sublime Archangel works alright as a 4/3 beatstick, especially with Honor of the Pure s hanging around. I'm thinking of incorporating a tiny bit more green creatures or just one or two Sigarda, Host of Herons .
July 12, 2012 9:10 p.m.
PasorofMuppets says... #5
A friend suggested I try Serra Avatar , I think I will also try Angelic Overseer .
July 12, 2012 9:21 p.m.
Yeah, maybe your only problem is boardsweeper and decks that will call a huge creature, very early, for example Grand Architect and Wurmcoil Engine . That's problem for white weenie
July 12, 2012 9:24 p.m.
PasorofMuppets says... #7
I don't know if Grand Architect decks are something I want to gear specifically towards, but between Fiend Hunter mainboard and Oblivion Ring sideboard, I'm usually good on removal. Usually, though. So I might try and fit some other things in sideboard. Sideboard needs work.
July 12, 2012 9:27 p.m.
Maybe consider 1 or 2 Sun Titan s? It's a very powerful card that can stare down your opponents big cards much easier than all your other guys can plus he can help you recover post board wipe.
July 13, 2012 11:14 a.m.
thundernick says... #9
if you're adding green in anyway put in card:Avacyn's Pilgrim to get the archangel out turn 3, it works with Champion of the Parish too
July 16, 2012 2:21 a.m.
Add in Thragtusk and some Cloudshift for a green bomb and some tricks to interact with Thrag and Fiend hunter
July 18, 2012 1:52 p.m.
Ohthenoises says... #11
What is your main beater? If you say Champion of Lambholt , Restoration Angel will be kinda detrimental to her. Have you considered card:Ranger's Guile? Also, I know you are running Thalia, Guardian of Thraben but I have found Fungal Sprouting to be INSANE with both Champion of Lambholt and Sublime Archangel .
I see a lot of good cards, but not a lot of synergy, Silverblade Paladin wants to attack WITH his bond-mate not sit back and watch, so I don't really understand his inclusion. Restoration Angel hoses both Champion of the Parish AND Champion of Lambholt so all in all I think you should pick a direction that doesn't include Champion of the Parish and Champion of Lambholt or a direction that doesn't hose those creatures.
Like I said, Good creatures but not good together IMO. If you have a big Champion of X/Y then the LAST thing you want to topdeck is Restoration Angel as it will reset all of the counters.
August 9, 2012 10:45 p.m.
PasorofMuppets says... #12
I don't understand at all why you think Restoration Angel hoses either Champion. Do you think I'm talking about flickering them specifically? I'm talking about flickering other creatures to add another counter to them. Also, Paladin is mostly to give double strike to whatever creature I want to be attacking, which is great for 3 mana; however, there are some cases where I'll be doing more damage by swinging all in, which is also good. Also to note that Restoration Angel's effect is a may effect anyway, so if one of the Champions is the only thing on board, I can still put her down without doing it. I saw your deck that had Fungal Sprouting in it, and I've been thinking about testing it out, but I'm not sure what to take out for it.
August 9, 2012 10:59 p.m.
DeletedNow4ever says... #13
Restoration Angel 's ability is a may. You don't have to bounce a big Champion if you don't want to. Not sure where you're getting that from Ohthenoises.
August 9, 2012 11:04 p.m.
Ohthenoises says... #14
Well if you go with tokens you kinda have to commit to it.
I was referring to flickering the Champions and I know that it's a may but if someone goes to target kill it you have no way to save either of them. It's good if you flicker others, yes, but your Champions have no protection and that's why my first question was about who your main beater is. If it is either Champion you might need to look into more protection for them.
My point about Silverblade Paladin is that he is more of an aggro card and less of an exalted card.
All of this is my own opinion. :P
August 9, 2012 11:05 p.m.
Ohthenoises says... #15
I never said it was a must ConBurnMadMan but my point was that he has no protection for either champion. In his description he states that he uses Restoration Angel to protect his creatures and if he uses them as beaters he has no protection with them.
August 9, 2012 11:07 p.m.
PasorofMuppets says... #16
My main beaters are Knight of Glory , Champion of the Parish , Champion of Lambholt , and Sublime Archangel . But the thing about exalted is that anyone can be a beater once Sublime hits the board. I feel like Restoration Angel is far more versatile and syngerstic in a deck looking to have lots of bodies (as well as providing way less of a dead draw as a top-deck). While it's nice that card:Ranger's Guile and similar provide that instantaneous protection, I think it's more important to get those bodies out. Truth be told I always forget I can flicker creatures to protect them with the Angel. XD I have thought about putting in one or two card:Faith's Shield, but most times they just come off as cute more than anything else; however, there is something to be said with shield, since at times and can make a card pretty much unblockable. If you think it's a better idea, I'll try out more Ajani than Paladin.
August 9, 2012 11:12 p.m.
PasorofMuppets says... #17
I never said in my description that I used Restoration Angel for that. :P
August 9, 2012 11:13 p.m.
Ohthenoises says... #18
"Restoration Angel allows me to redirect a Fiend Hunter's exile,"
August 9, 2012 11:14 p.m.
PasorofMuppets says... #21
I meant my own Fiend Hunters, but that's also true, guess I wasn't clear. xPWhat do you think of more Ajani? He provides double strike like Paladin; however, he also provides a better post-wipe option with his ultimate
August 9, 2012 11:16 p.m.
Ohthenoises says... #22
I like him a lot with exalted but he has the same issue with counters and flicker so I guess I would answer that with the question "What do you plan on dropping those counters on and how important are they to you?"
August 9, 2012 11:17 p.m.
Ohthenoises says... #23
It's really too bad that is specifies Non-angel... go go infinite combos!
August 9, 2012 11:18 p.m.
PasorofMuppets says... #24
The counters aren't really that important to me; however, I could put them on Sublime Archangel to protect her from Slagstorm and weak Bonfires, or I could put them on Lambolt. The fact that he gets one more Loyalty interests me far more than the one counter does, if that makes sense. My only issue with Ajani is that it's been a bitch to even get to Sublimes, so I'm not sure how much effort I want to invest in getting Ajanis as well. xD
August 9, 2012 11:20 p.m.
Ohthenoises says... #25
LOL well look at it this way.. someone SOMEWHERE will come up with a white deck using both of them that will top 8 so either you will have good trade fodder or a good base for the deck.
Minhsumo says... #1
Cathedral of War ? is there room for it.. the inkmoths and the caverns there, it doesn't look like there's room but this is exalted for the intent.... inkmoth is a nice secondary condition, but too many people sideboard against it.
July 12, 2012 1:52 p.m.