Infect: On an actual budget

Modern rockyjs

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deltacobra says... #1

If u want I find Birds of Paradise was a decent replacement for Noble Hierarch the only downfall is no exalted.

May 23, 2016 7:27 p.m.

deltacobra says... #2

And it slightly above your 5 buck range.

May 23, 2016 7:28 p.m.

mtgThaen says... #3

Going down another land to 21 seems fine. Also, running 19 including fetches means that you are functional running only 11 or 13 mana lands - significantly less than no fetches, so I'm a little confused by your opinion. If you are concerned about fixing, throw in Mana Confluence or City of Brass. Gemstone Mine should do fine as well. Also, two slips, with 2 rancor, should be enough. That is another slot. That makes 2 slots, I believe

May 23, 2016 7:49 p.m.

deltacobra says... #4

Which opinion? There lots of ways to mana fix but I feel 20 to 22 lands due to the fact of having groundswell in hand and no lands to play is pretty lame. I mean if you wanna fix that without fetches you could use evolving wilds.

May 23, 2016 8:03 p.m.

deltacobra says... #5

If u run the wilds you could pull 19 lands off possibly I run 8 fetches.

May 23, 2016 8:08 p.m.

deltacobra says... #6

If u think having 11-13 lands in your deck out of 60 is a good idea your fairly insane lol. The fetches thin your deck to allow for a better chance to draw a card u need and allow u find the land you need. And where it 2 colors makes it even harder to pull off even goblins decks who only use 1 mana run 18-19 lands.

May 23, 2016 9:31 p.m.

rockyjs says... #7

I wasn't concerned about fixing the colors but more for Groundswell and just simply having 1 land every turn because I do need that as it is aggro. I wasn't thinking, having the shocks and fetches doesn't really make a difference in that matter. Running 21 lands does seem like a good idea, though. I guess it is fine to only have 2 Slip Through Space. To be honest I am a little reluctant to lower it to two as I really like those types of cards because the evasion is just so good, but if you think it is worth taking it out I'll take your word for it. Which of the cards you two suggested should I add in those 2 slots? Dispel? Spell Pierce? Dismember? More creatures? More pump of some sort? Another Mutagenic Growth and Apostle's Blessing? Should I replace Livewire Lash with Wild Defiance in the sideboard? I think I will just add another Yavimaya Coast instead of City of Brass since it doesn't really make a difference and Yavimaya Coast is so better for budget. Is there a way for me to add that Slip Through Space into the sideboard? Maybe instead of a Corrupted Resolve? I don't have a large collection so I would like to make sure the deck is as good as it can be before I order it as it would be difficult for me to tweak it later. Thanks again for helping me guys! Really appreciate it!

May 23, 2016 9:41 p.m.

rockyjs says... #8

I am going to go with another Mutagenic Growth and another Apostle's Blessing for now. Tell me if I should change it. Also, I am replacing a Corrupted Resolve with a Slip Through Space in the sideboard. Tell me if I should change that too.

May 23, 2016 9:47 p.m.

deltacobra says... #9

The sideboard is a hard thing for people to help with cause most people tweak there sideboards for there local meta. Slip is great but you basically shooting for a one hit KO so having more than 2 is not really needed and not everyone will focus on blocking a 1/1 and after they declare no blocks u light them up but again u need to be careful on how spells go on the stack. Don't play all your spells in one shot wait to see if they might Lightning Bolt or Path to Exile your creature which Vines of Vastwood and Apostle's Blessing both help with.

May 23, 2016 10:16 p.m.

mtgThaen says... #10

@deltacobra- I think you misunderstand me. Obviously, running only 11 lands is ridiculous, even for infect. But, if you run 8 fetches out of 19 lands, then it makes sense that only eleven can produce mana. In my list, I have 3xForest, 2xBreeding Pool, 2xVerdant Catacombs, 2xPendelhaven, 4xInkmoth Nexus, and 6 fetches (4xWindswept Heath and 2xWooded Foothills). That's 13 mana-producing lands, four of which are creatures a fair amount of the time. If your deck is running 4xGroundswell, then you may want to run more than 19 (I think adding two lands is enough). Also, the opinion I was referencing: "And 19 lands in my opinion is too low without fetches and shocks." from post #19, interestingly enough lol.

I would recommend only two Slip Through Space. However, since you are only running 4 creatures with natural evasion (Blighted Agent), I may have to say that three is good. But, I haven't played a list with the creature base you have, so my experience there is limited.

ALWAYS let your spells resolve one at a time, as deltacobra said. Don't base your strategy/list off of the assumption that your 1/1s will rarely be blocked - people know infect, usually; but since you said your meta is not too competitive, you may get more than your fair share of wins through the cracks. Often, though, with simic/sultai, you deal lethal over the course of a few turns. You're not as explosive as Mono-G, so you have to be careful. Don't be afraid to hold back on tapping out for pump if you believe your opponent has Path to Exile or Deflecting Palm. That being said, don't be too timid. Sometimes swinging for the fences is the right call. Sometimes >> Most times. But not many things feel worse than tapping out for two Groundswells and a Slip Through Space only to have your Glistener Elf be path'd while you are sitting on a Vines of Vastwood. It happens, but remember: you have inevitability. You only need to deal 10 damage via combat. Getting in for one here, four there, two over this way, can do the job. It's not as cool, but it wins games.

May 24, 2016 1:19 a.m.

deltacobra says... #11

I think u just reading it wrong or I worded either one since was on my phone on a family trip so wasn't proof reading my writing. But my list includes 8 fetches 2 breeding pool 3 forest 2 Pendelhaven 4 inkmoth. But I what I meant is that 19 lands unless u using evolving wilds or coast or city of brass is too little. But the main worry with fetchs u can leave it on the field and use it to trigger multiple groundswells which u could use evolving wilds downside is that the land it gets comes into play tapped. And if u wanna run another slip I'd cut a Rancor since in a way they doing the samething but helping u punch damage through but I think Rancor better since it buffs your creature and teams well with Ichorclaw Myr and u have 4 Blighted Agent so I feel 2 enough but it your deck and playtesting it will help u see which cards useful to you in your meta since everyones play group differs in my meta it loaded with tier 1 decks and my sideboard reflects some of the more common ones I'd see.

May 24, 2016 5:50 a.m.

rockyjs says... #12

I am changing Livewire Lash (in sideboard) to Wild Defiance because I think it is better.

May 24, 2016 6:51 p.m.

deltacobra says... #13

Good choice.

May 24, 2016 7:18 p.m.

rockyjs says... #14

Do you think the deck is refined enough for me to order it?

May 24, 2016 8:37 p.m.

deltacobra says... #15

I think u should cut a Island add one more Ichorclaw Myr and the only thing that I think may end up hurting u is the islands. There not alot blue spells other than slip and agent since probe can use 2 life to cast. But the only suggestions for that are add lands that can tap for any color City of Brass or Hinterland Harbor maybe even Evolving Wilds since it could also help if u have no land in hand and need it for a Groundswell

May 25, 2016 6:19 a.m.

deltacobra says... #16

And your gonna want 2-3 Dismember to deal with the infect killer Melira, Sylvok Outcast

May 25, 2016 3:02 p.m.

mtgThaen says... #17

May 25, 2016 3:31 p.m.

deltacobra says... #18

Yes those as well but Twisted Image and Nature's Claim work better to take out Spellskite.

May 25, 2016 5:43 p.m.

mtgThaen says... #19

Of course. But, in a pinch, it will get rid of a skite. Not something to be scoffed at. :-)

May 25, 2016 6:24 p.m.

deltacobra says... #20

For sure I didn't disagree with ya lol if it all got it does the trick but I'd rather see those 2 in my hand for skite.

May 25, 2016 6:53 p.m.

deltacobra says... #21

mtgThaen is Traitor actually seeing play in modern? Also with Traitor in response to the Dismember if the mana open and a Vampire or zombie on the field he would survive it.

May 25, 2016 6:57 p.m.

mtgThaen says... #22

In some Jund builds, it takes the slot usually occupied by Huntmaster of the Fells  Flip or Tasigur, the Golden Fang.

May 26, 2016 7:11 a.m.

deltacobra says... #23

Was not aware haven't seen many jund builds in my meta so haven't noticed him. He is a pretty bad ass card tho. Im using him in my BW deck for standard that built around westvale abbey

May 26, 2016 8:51 a.m.

deltacobra says... #24

Decks looking like it in order now time for ya to put it together.

May 28, 2016 1:43 p.m.

rockyjs says... #25

Okay. I'll order it today then.

May 28, 2016 2:18 p.m.

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