Hey thanks for getting back to me JohnnyCRO!

Yeah I used to run Natural State, the more games I played, the more it seems Autumn's Veil has been under performing. That might be actually swapped out soon, Stubborn Denial is generally great, but I'll most likely add in Flusterstorm first my meta is fairly high level so our decks are tuned for fast paced matches.

Root Maze is an amazing card and definitely slows downs decks, most notably Tymna/Thrasios Paradox and Storm decks. It considers testing as I do have two spare copies laying around. I am wary of running Null Rod due to running Scroll Rack and Sensei's Divining Top, I don't really care for my mana ramp if it stops other people from using their artifacts which is why I think Seeds of Innocence is better in this scenario.

I'm also thinking of just running Guttural Response cuz...well I like split color cards and in a blue heavy pod, it's cool to have :P

Null Rod has the advantage of leaving lands alone, which could be helpful if you can consistently outrun greedier manabases with fewer lands. Its main disadvantage is that it cripples Top and Scroll rack. If you think the upside is worth it, then maybe give it a run. Otherwise I would stick to Root Maze. Seeds of Innocence is cool, not costing too much and it might be a good call. However its sorcery speed, cmc of 3 and cost are considerable drawbacks. By all means, test it, but mind these problems and take note how much they do or do not influence its use.

Guttural Response, along with Pyroblast and Red Elemental Blast, is a high ceiling, low floor kind of card. In a predominantly blue interactive meta, it's a must have that wins counterwars out of nowhere because of its low and liberal mana cost (it might as well be in a deck like this). Outside of that, its virtually useless. So yeah, if your meta really has that much blue and interaction, it's a great pick. But it's one of those cards I think you should swap between games if you're going into a casual pod simply because even if your deck is strong there, topdecking a card that's as close to useless as a playable card can get feels bad.

JohnnyCRO

Yeah I going to test it out and see how it does, the only reason I would run Seeds of Innocence is because that is the only low cost mass artifact destruction aside from Vandalblast. Well mainly it was a tech card from my abzan deck as I'm unsure if there are any other mass artifact destruction in Temur colors that is instant speed.

There are 2 such cards I know of. Hurkyl's Recall, and its cousin Rebuild.

Hurkyl's Recall costs only deals with only one player. Impact of such drawback is specific for every meta; if it's a good solution more often than not, the low cost is a great bonus for a small trade-off.

Rebuild costs more; . But it deals with the entire board and it has cycling for as a side option (small bonus, but one that has to be mentioned). If you need to deal with multiple players at once and you can pay the mana, this might be a neat solution. Especially since you don't have many artifacts of your own you badly want to spare.

Bouncing does help, but there is no pure destruction correct? Rebuild might not be a bad one as I run that in my Kess deck.

None that I can think of right now

Yeah same here, really appreciate all the insight and perspective that you have given Intet JohnnyCRO! Definitely a different iteration now and more refined than before, all that's left is just pretty much meta call cards.

If you have the time I would definitely appreciate more insight and your take on my more casual decks, I like to see what you would think on specifically Nahiri and Drana.

I'll gladly come by later when I have the time! :)

Good grief I don't even know if I can make any suggestions here. This deck has so much history, and seems very tuned.

All I can say is that Insidious Will is one of my favorite cards. Not sure how you feel about it though.

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Haha thanks buddy, I like Insidious Will as well, but in this type of deck I have to run the most efficient cheap ones. 4 CMC is tad too costly, great for the more casual play though!

Thanks for checking out my deck and upvoting!

Well, I suppose something was better than nothing :P

It is and I appreciate it, if ya see anything else I can add to the primer lmk!

Like is it easy to read or anything I can change about as well to new readers lol

The primer seems pretty good. Very well laid out/organized, it does its job well

Thanks thanks! Worked really hard on it haha!

Deck looks really fleshed out, love the idea of Temur control/combo. Seems like it's a ton of fun to play, just a couple of thoughts.

If getting Intet locked out is a concern, Command Beacon can help you get her into your hand when her commander tax is too much to bear.

Honestly, I was looking for something else, and I don't think there's anything I would change here. The deck looks really tuned, and it's great.

Thankies IAmTheWraith!

Mmm I have never really thought about using Command Beacon before as my games end before I would usually cast Intet by the third time if she has been the target of removal often. I'll take that into consideration though! It's an interesting way to avoid the tax along with Season's Past to grab back the tower!

Appreciate the feedback and upvote!!!

I can provide no criticism that would benefit you, but the deck looks cool.

Thankies DanTheBear,

If no feedback I would appreciate the upvote!

+1

Abilities like Intet and Yennett, Cryptic Sovereign instantly calls out to the Johnny in me and my brain starts cranking out possible ways to abuse their powers to the fullest.

I always appreciate creative decks using less popular commanders and the hard work put in to make the deck work is tremendous, so kudos to you for this awesome deck and primer.

Stay in touch as we trade pointers. Cheers!

I saw you include Tatyova, Benthic Druid in your primer but she's not in the decklist. I assume she was removed after play testing?

Yes Cloudius! I have just recently added Cryptic Command , Heroic Intervention , as well as Blasphemous Act . I took out GSZ , Bloom Tender , Dryad Arbor , as well as Tatyova, Benthic Druid .

The reasons being, I have been encountering a lot more creature wide strategies and the aggro does tend to hurt quite a bit since I always taking damage from Sylvan Library , Mana Crypt , even Boseiju, Who Shelters All . Whenever Tatyova is in play it's already at a losing battle, and GSZ never really gets much value as well.

I have update the primer to add in the new additions and I haven't gotten to really play Intet as of much lately, but this Wednesday I'm going to be play testing her all night, so we'll see the results from that!

I do have a question for you though since we run similar deck builds and I would like your perspective, what do you think of adding in minor board wipes like Pyroclasm , Anger of the Gods , Firespout , or Volcanic Fallout ? It's for removal of dorks as well as cards like Tymna the Weaver and such.

this list is awesome, +1 from me. How much would it cost without foils or the really expensive cards?

hkhssweiss I see where you're coming from. Heroic Intervention is too good to miss out if you're running Green.

When dealing with creature wide strategies, I'm blessed cause Yennett, Cryptic Sovereign is Esper , granting me access to some of the best board wipes the game has to offer. Temur doesn't offer such powerful effects in general.

For your question, I'm wondering how big is your meta on mana dorks and weenie creatures/tokens?

My personal take on minor board wipes is, if drawn early game, they do serve the purpose of slowing opponents running the above down. However, they're dead cards in mid-late games usually. So instead of slowing my opponents, my humble opinion is to add in cards that accelerate my own game plan (e.g. more ramps, tutors, card draws/filters). offers you a plethora of card draw engines. Mind's Eye does a lot of work for me too in my Shalai, Voice of Plenty tokens deck.

You may wish to also consider Abundance , it does miracles when paired with Sylvan Library .

Let me know what you think of the above suggestions. Cheers!

Yo BelugaWhale217, your looking a about 2.3k USD without the foils. Without the really expensive cards...I would have to see as a lot of it comes down to consistency and mana fixing. If you like I can brew up a budget list, just lmk your budget and I can trim it down. Half the deck is the lands due to the dual lands and fetches. The other half is the extra turn spells and mana accelerators.

@ Cloudius Thanks for getting back to me so fast! Yeah the biggest problem with Intet is due to her being in lacking the other utility colors means I miss out on a lot of great stuff. As for going to your question, in my cEDH meta there are plenty of dorks which is why I would run them, in my more casual meta there are quite a bit of going wide strategies, tokens especially, and also cheap ETB creature effects. Alesha being the main one currently.

I have considered Abundance before, but I do feel it's a bit slow especially the turn it comes down. However I can try it out and see how it does as I never truly tested it. Mind's Eye is definitely a card that is way too slow, especially having access to blue for card draw, it's more for decks that don't have access to powerful draw engines. Personal opinion as well is that I follow a rule that if a card at 5 CMC does not win you the game or give you an overwhelming advantage, don't run it.

Atm I'm not fully satisfied with my dear Intet as my Teneb deck, but with the help of JohnnyCRO earlier it's getting closer to completion!

hkhssweiss Fully agree with you on Abundance and Mind's Eye being slow at 4 and 5 CMC. In fact, I don't run the Abundance + Library combo in my decks at all. Mind's Eye did a lot of work in my Shalai deck cause she's in Selesnya colors, with little access to quality card draw spells/engines.

Let me know how your testing goes with regards to running the minor board wipes against the dorks/tokens.

Just curious, on a good draw, which turns do the deck usually go off, assuming you can go uninterrupted?