It started as fun... deck:walk-for-two-15-noble!? A Tibalt-FB-Deck.

And a second version: Walk for Two (1.5 Noble). A Tibalt-Madness-Deck, Rakdos-Colored.

Currently I'm working on a new version of the .PDF. I'll just wait until all recent changes are at my mailbox and I have the ok of the others. Until then I'll leave the .PDF mentioned above online. Sorry for all the errors until then :D In the new version I fixed everything that came to my attention. If you have something to say, too: Don'd hesitate to write on my wall!

Love the format, it's a great idea. here's my version of a noble life-gain, so lemme know what you think. Noble Chalice

Noble Kaldran Sword?

"Ok, i was just wondering, although, maybe if this becomes a real MTG format, Wizards will make a Noble set and have a card that allows you to bring back your killed Noble. I mean, just a thought."

Well, there's always stuff like Treasure Hunter, Unburial Rites and whatnot ;)

Oh and graft, what's the ruling for cards that were reprinted in Master's Edition I-IV? Exile is a common there, so is it a common? ME I-IV were only released online, but a lot of the rarities were fixed to make ME very well balanced, so I don't think that they really broke anything

The Exile question comes partly from my own lack of attention to detail, but when I used the rarity filter in workstation mode Exile came up as a common card.

And another invention based on my first ever deck. Noble Format: Kor

Also a Gatherer search cross-index of Name: "Exile" & Rarity: "Common" returned Exile as a common, so it's a common.

Source:http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&name=+[Exile]&rarity=|[C]

Seems like a good card for the format, big boost for white-based control (compare it to Timely Reinforcements against creature decks, each card gains life and evens the creature ratio), costs less than a bunch of other similar white removal that is usually uncommon, and actually Exiles stuff, which can be important.

Good find.

mandroid: wait, is it official we can use Master Editions Commons as commons? If so that is awesome.

New Noble:

Puresteel Paladin

You know the drill on this one: play critters, equip them, hold onto your paladin until you can refill your hand if you're worried about him dying.

The creature suite here features 7 creatures that create tokens upon death and a smattering of other abilities. Between the lifelink and Exile the race should be close.

My favorite card here is Mortarpod. It helps in an area white is usually lacking in, and if you have the Paladin out it speeds you up by a turn because you can just launch your whole team at your opponent's face.

You're gonna have to ask Graft about that one, but I was under the impression that was the case. But I did just find this page, which implies that in MTGO pauper cards are the ones which have been printed at common in some set released on MTGO. Now unless the rules for the paper Pauper format are different than the ones for the online Pauper format then I would venture to say that Exile is legal.

http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/resources.aspx?x=magic/rules/pauper

Since Noble is a paper format, only printed sets are used to determine card legality. The problem with allowing cards that have been printed at common on MTGO is that there are also many cards that are not common on MTGO that are intended to balance that out. If we allow people to use cards from the Masters Editions as commons, then we would have to also follow the uncommon restrictions of MTGO. For instance, you will not find High Tide as a common on MTGO. However, we allow the use of such cards as commons in Noble, so we cannot allow MTGO commons that are not printed on paper as commons.

TL;DR - Online only sets are not counted when determining a cards lowest printed rarity. So no, you may not use cards that are common on MTGO but are not common on paper.

bad link above:

Noble Puresteel

mandroid, Pauper is an online only format. There is no such thing as "Paper Pauper". No matter where you play Pauper, Ornithopter is always illegal, because it is not a common on MTGO. However, Noble is not the same thing as Pauper, we allow the use of any common that has been printed in a real MTG set that is not on the ban list, not just MTGO commons. So, in that mindset, MTGO commons do not count as far as determining a cards lowest printed rarity.

Sorry I've been slow to respond, life has been keeping me busy! Everyone in this thread is wonderful!

Just bought a web host and domain name for the Noble site, I hope to get a basic version up and running in 1-2 weeks.

I've changed our "Mission Statement" to make this a "4-turn win" format in an effort to keep the ban list to a minimum.

I've asked KorApprentice to be the primary arbiter (I love that word) of the ban list for the format. He is extremely apt at these matters, and I trust him to make the correct decisions.

Noble is now a selectable format on TappedOut! Thanks yeaGO!! I've put the ban list in place but I'm not sure it's working correctly at this point. Please let me know if you experience any problems. Thanks!

@Jarrod_0067: I think reducing the number of cards per deck to 40 would warp the format in favor of combo decks, so I don't think we have it as an option.

@Nazsmith: I personally don't think (and I hope) Training Grounds doesn't need the banhammer, I love that card. I think if we have to ban something, I would rather ban Pili-Pala since it would never see play outside of the Training Grounds or Heartstone combo. Izzet Guildmage is nuts with Training Grounds and something like Lightning Bolt, but I don't think it's totally broken. Even the Pili-Pala combo dies to removal.

@Crivaro: thanks again for the awesome .pdf!

@mandroid: Isochron Scepter is great, but it is potential card disadvantage if the other player has a counter ready or any kind of artifact removal. It doesn't dominate legacy so I think we can give it a chance.

For Command Tower, I love the land, but the Noble is not a Commander, and I don't want errata to change that. Making a manabase out of commons is one of the reasons that I like this format, and honestly Command Tower functions like a rare more than a common. I like having to use borderposts and signets for mana fixing, since they slow the format down a little bit.

Regarding Master's Edition I-IV I think I have to say that they are not included in rarity consideration, simply for ease of player understanding (current ruling is based on printed rarity, ME is online only). Though I agree these cards would not be broken being considered commons. I chose printed rarity because the people that this format was designed for should be building their deck based on their paper cards, not MTGO cards. KorApprentice also makes a great point in his post.

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@vishnarg: I don't mind if people want to use cards from the Commander sets in this format. The fewer restrictions there are on deckbuilding, the happier I am.

@squirrelking98: If the Noble returned to the command zone, it would be far too difficult to beat combo decks. If you're going to run a combo deck without some kind of protection, you're a sitting duck waiting to lose. If you include some kind of graveyard recursion in your deck, you can get your Noble back. For instance, that's why Unearth is so great in my Noblesong deck.

If I missed anything, please let me know. Thanks for all of the support!

Here's one I've been meaning to make for a while:

Noble Green Aggro

Basically all Green's best 1/2 drops with a Hurricane as the big boss to finish the opponent off.

Thanks for clearing it up!

The third and final version of my Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded-Deck. It's going to be Mono-R, look: Walk for Two (1.5 Noble) :D Comments and suggestions are highly appreciated, as always!

Hi, I made an Enduring Renewel/Grinding Station Deck.

It tends to win on turn 4/5, though it can win as early as turn 2 thanks to Lotus Petal.

Therefore, I believe this deck to be overpowered, and in need of a good banning. :3

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/noble-enduring-renewal-mill/

I'm curious why Splinter Twin is banned but Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker isn't? I guess I missed the comment before it was purged. I will be building a Noble deck though! Love this idea, and its more challenging than I'd thought it'd be. Even though my knowledge of magic cards only reaches as far back as Zendikar haha.

the Twin was banned back when we were trying to build decklists to establish turn 5 kills, but since then basically the format has determined that turn 4 kills aren't out of the question. It's probably going to come off the ban list, you should talk to KorApprentice about it if you really want to make a ST deck. The main knock against it compared to Kiki is that it's a pretty damn consistent turn 4 kill between the 4+ Brainstorm variants and the full 8-set of the two creature combo pieces which enable the kill since you don't need acceleration to pull it off (not sure if that actually matters that much because of all the fixing).

Also if someone had make a Kiki deck at that time it probably would have been banned, as all it take is one ramp spell to put it on Twin's level.

By the way mandroid i was looking through my cards today and i noticed a third creature that would work with twin aside from Deceiver Exarch and Midnight Guard: Village Bell-Ringer

Don't forget Pestermite (that's what I was referring to, forgot about the white ones). Gives you the option of going U/R, W/R or R/w/u (probably don't want to do this unless you're going for heavy control with a combo finisher since the mana-fixing in this format aint that great). And they're all 3 drops o_O

I guess WOTC was like "Well, that combo is already super-enabled, so let's just print whatever we want and not worry about it."