I'm going to sidetrack a little bit. Hasn't the magic creators created cards to completely destroy certain cards and deck before? The creator of this format hasn't banned Baneslayer Angel. try to kill that.

KorApprentice is the keeper of the ban list, appointed by Graft]. Walletslayer can be answered easily by black, blue and white in this format. Green also has ways of dealing with it, though fewer than other colors, and they're often not main. WSA is a real beating for red decks though.

Also the anti-Jace cards are often at higher rarities, which makes him hard to answer in this format.

Whatever, this format still seems good.

Noble Birds I heard about this from a buddy and it seemed so interesting. I literally went through a dozen deck ideas before I thought of this. I would love some feed back on it.

Heh. I get to play Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind as my noble? Alright, then I'll make this:

Noble: The Firemind

Seems pretty silly. Plus CounterTop combo as well? Yeah, I'll get behind that.

I'm making another deck, I'll post it up soon. Cause I can use Stroke of Genius as my noble. =D

-BuLLZ3Y3

You should check out the existing High Tide build by KorApprentice

This one: The Noble Solidarity

Guys, I need your help: deck:solitary-confinement-15-noble

I have only just started to look over this format and it looks exciting for me because I have a large collections of cards, and many friend who do not. With a format like this, I can afford to loan friends the few rares they need and let them have many of the commons I like, however I was frustrated to see that you were debating unbanning Time Walk.

In your original description of this format you were explaining that decks could be built without it costing as much. Time Walk itself costs over $500. I understand that cards like these will only be used as proxy cards or for free online play, but I would personally enjoy this format more if it tried to maintain a ban list that allowed for players to actually be able to afford to own the decks that compete well with high end noble decks.

awesome idea, here's my noble deck (Stoic noble). will be making some more

Personally, I agree with your idea, but it is the desire of the graft to keep the ban list as small as possible in order to facilitate a low entry barrier for the format. Since it's designed top-down to be a casual format, I think that's a good choice. The intention is for it to be played informally and for it to be accessible to players of all skill levels, so hopefully the rules can facilitate that. I realize that being a new player doesn't mean that they're not going to be good at the game, but it's still a fact that MTG has one of the most complicated rules setup in any tabletop game ever. Perhaps you're right and the needs of most players are served best by making sure they can go to FNM and actually compete without buying rediculious rares, but time will tell, this format is still in its infancy. Also I think having a hundred-card ban list just to eliminate the possibility of playing expensive cards is unnecessary as long as they don't dominate the format and people can still win with cheap decks.

Also I think it's not a good idea to unban Time Walk. It's quite vulnerable itself to yard hate, but in reality much less so since you're going to have counterspell mana open most of the time. Then getting it back is just insane. I'll test it out with KorApprentice some time if you want graft, but my gut is saying it's extremely abusable.

Probably the weirdest Noble so far: deck:falling-feathers-noble

running either ob nixilis or sphinx sovereign :)

Why only 4 uncommons? Have you done any playtesting to see what the optimal number is?

I think the Power 9 deserve to be banned in everything except Vintage, so banning Time Walk and Timetwister is fine by me.

Is there a rationale for the Chamale?

i tend to disagree. I don't see why a one time use of Time Walk is that bad.

Since there are non-creature rares with no common or uncommon printings on the banned list, does that mean that you can use things other than creatures as your Noble card?

yes

acronix I havent built a deck yet with a creature noble :-)

Threw together a quick infect deck:

All Hail Skithiryx

i made one with some of the cards i had lying around what do you think?

Humans & Angelic overseer

@squire1 I think the reason Time Walk is banned because it would be fairly easy to get it back to your hand and imprint it with Isochron Scepter for infinite turns.

So is isochron the problem or time walk

My opinion, Scepter.

There's probably other ways to abuse Time Walk that I don't know. There's a ton of spells that bring cards back to your hand. Scepter is easily abusable too.