Actually, Time Walk doesn't work with Isochron Scepter since it is a sorcery. I made the same mistake earlier... it combos with Panoptic Mirror, but both are rare so it doesn't break the format. I think it would be possible to build a really good deck around Time Walk using things like Izzet Chronarch, Izzet Guildmage, Mnemonic Wall, Noxious Revival etc but it probably wouldn't be terribly overpowered. Time Walk could probably safely come off the ban list. But at $500 I can't imagine anyone would actually use it.

I'll read the rest of the thread later. Had a beer, feeling good, got caught up in commenting.

There are Los tons of ways to stop Time Walk.

See here

after all this talk about counters, i felt the need to throw together deck:noble-valakut

Wow. All these decks are intense, competitive and pretty serious stuff!

Here's my light-hearted take on the issue. Unsurprisingly, it is more expensive than many standard decks out there: deck:noble-the-witless

Keeper of the Noble Winds

BIRDS!!!!!!!!

gonna build a deck later and post it. Re-animator deck using exhume as the reanimation spell and Pathrazer of Ulamog as the uncommon target

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but Entomb will most likely be banned as a noble, a turn 1 anything in your deck with Dark Ritual and Exhume is just too powerful. I'm sure you can still build reanimator without Entomb, I'm just trying to eliminate the turn 1 possibilities.

Entomb would be something I would use for the noble until its banned, but the deck is (for the most part) already built as a pauper on my page. Just some changes from that to fit noble.

Once entomb is banned I'll make Recurring Nightmare my noble for a quick reanimation.

While my comment regarding the sale of this in paper, i still stand that they won't make paper sets just because they wouldn't be able to make enough money selling mass commons without some kind of special backing (alt art, all foil, etc, etc, etc).

But! I bet this would explode on mtgo in a heartbeat. Everyone loves commander, everyone loves pauper. This format is like a perfect marriage of the 2.

There is an easy instant win combo with Recurring Nightmare, Priest of Gix, and Hissing Iguanar, and infinite life if you replace the iguanar with Deathgreeter, so Recurring Nightmare is currently up for ban consideration. Sorry to be ruining your combo's, just trying to even the playing field. If such a combo is too vulnerable to removal and proves much slower in play testing than theory, then Recurring Nightmare might not get banned, but I get the feeling that it is a little too powerful. We shall see when I get around to playtesting it.

@platinum_demon: "Hey, would we be able to set up a Noble deck hub so we could see all the Noble decks in one place?"

We are looking into adding this as a feature on the Noble website once it is up and running. For now, you can use the deck:search/?format=Noble&q=&price_0=&price_1=&rating_score_0=&rating_score_1=&order=-date_updated&submit=Filter+results">advanced search feature to find them.

@-There are a few reasons. Pauper uses 5 uncommons, so in this format, since you have 1 rare it makes sense to subtract 1 uncommon. Also, you can only have up to four of any given card, which means you can have a full playset of one uncommon if you like. If there were more than 4 uncommons, it changes the feel of the format, and definitely makes combos more powerful.

@squire1 : Agreed, I don't think Time Walk needs to be banned. You sarcastic sonofawonderfulperson :) Actually, counterspells are why I stopped adding things to the banned list. Without a functioning metagame, there are very little control aspects people are considering. Once there is a functional meta, I think we will see that not all combos are unbeatable.

@aloehart199: The funny thing about the possibility of WotC printing these decks is that if you look at any of their preconstructed decks, the common/uncommon/rare ratio isn't terribly far off from this format. And if we get them to reprint valuable commons/uncommons (Force of Will, anyone?) they can easily make it worthwhile for we players.

One new one I threw together: Noble Trampledancer

Thanks everyone for the support!

Here's my deck: deck:i-done-broke-noble

Perhaps this will open the eyes of the creators and make them realize that certain cards shouldn't be allowed to be Nobles, like Mox Opal. lol Turn-1 Metalcraft into Frogmite/Auriok Sunchaser, into turn-2 Myr Enforcer.

@zandl, maybe I've been playing too much pauper but that just doesn't seem that broken to me. I played against someone on pauper that was playing affinity and dropped 1 Frogmite turn 2 then 2 more and a Myr Enforcer on me turn 3

And I won that game with a R/U storm deck i had been working on.

Eternal formats are all full of crazy plays like that. Certain cards need banned but for the most part until a particular deck starts owning the format (cawblade when it was standard, preban of mystic) the cards for it shouldn't be banned.

Certain cards in the game are flat out overpowered and ridiculous. We don't have to see a deck break Black Lotus, the cards brokenness is written right on it lol. But cards like opal (which i agree may need bannning somewhere down the line) should be given a chance before limiting a format too much.

on a side note, Noble Death

-I updated the original post with the PDFs that Crivaro and mafteechr made, added mafteechr's comprehensive rules, and updated the FAQ to include links to the Advanced Search for all Noble decks. I'll probably have to clear the comments again sometime this week.

just out of curiosity why is Mindcrank banned? Considering it requires the opponent to lose life before it works, it seems like it wouldn't be overpowered.

On the other hand I am far from knowing all the cards so there's probably some combo that breaks the card heavily

Bloodchief Ascension is why mindcrank is banned. turn 4 win EVERY time.

It's auto-win with Noble Bloodchief Ascension. It alone is playable, but together...

turn 1 ascension turn 2 burn spell turn 3 burn their turn 3 burn your turn 4 mindcrank + burn spell if the counter the burn spell they still die.

made a noble for fun check it out and tell me what you think, deck:noble-equipment

Noble dragonmaster

It is a ramping nightmare.

Okay i have a question for the rules junkies... If i were to use say, Wurmcoil Engine and I wanted to bring it back to my hand, is that legal? Because of its effect, it has to hit the graveyard, and because of the rules, it doesnt go back to the Command Zone once its been played. So does that allow me to return it to my hand from the graveyard using Nature's Spiral, Remember the Fallen, or Salvage Scout?

whallybu49, as far as I understand yes.

Once your noble card has been cast, it is treated as a normal card, so yes. It's in the rules.

my new noble deck, played it and kicks ass. noble of the reliquary

alright Minousmancer thanks for clearing that up. Here's the deck i was referring to: deck:ooh-shiny-wurm