Introducing Noble: the Format

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vishnarg says... #1

Yes, Minousmancer, I was trolling... you know, joking? Anyway, can I get in on this preconstructed deck making assignment, for the from the vault legends kind of thing? Because first, we need a list of all the rares/cards in this From the Vault: Nobles box..... any ideas? We could start with [[Gideon's Avenger, thats a nice starting place.

April 6, 2012 2:41 p.m.

Minousmancer says... #2

Also, why is SkullclampMTG Card: Skullclamp banned in this format (or any for that matter)?

April 6, 2012 2:53 p.m.

KorApprentice says... #3

...you're trolling right...?

April 6, 2012 3:02 p.m.

KorApprentice says... #4

Just added SkullclampMTG Card: Skullclamp to my Noble Modular Affinity deck as an example, try it out and you will see why drawing two cards for one colorless is broken.

April 6, 2012 3:10 p.m.

vishnarg says... #5

Lol now Minousmancer is definitely trolling. Hahahaha, yeah, if you want something similar try Infiltration LensMTG Card: Infiltration Lens, its great because your creatures are unblockable, then when their at low life you draw two cards and kill one of their creatures every time you attack.

April 6, 2012 3:25 p.m.

vishnarg says... #6

This would be pretty huge, but I think the format would be better off with 6 uncommons per deck. That allows a little more flexibility.

April 6, 2012 3:26 p.m.

KorApprentice says... #7

More like a little more turn 3 win-ish :)

April 6, 2012 3:35 p.m.

vishnarg says... #8

Heres a fun Noble precon deck: Noble: Armament Master, MRSP Price: $25, and the Armament MasterMTG Card: Armament Master is foil. Boom, there ya go, perfect.

April 6, 2012 3:42 p.m.

Minousmancer says... #9

Two things, I get how it's over powered, but here is my argument, you have to kill your creature for it and if you draw two lands well that just sucks.

No I'm not trolling I've never actually played against the card and I think Sword of Body and MindMTG Card: Sword of Body and Mind is more broken than SkullclampMTG Card: Skullclamp.

April 6, 2012 3:45 p.m.

vishnarg says... #10

I edited the deck, its "for sale" now for only $19.99! yay

April 6, 2012 3:48 p.m.

vishnarg says... #11

Well its not... Heres why: equip your skullclamp to a 1/1 you have, it dies, you draw two. Then you can play those again. If one of them is a 1/1, play, equip, and repeat. If not, then equip it to another creature you have for a power bonus, then go swing in every turn until they finally block it and deal with it, then you draw two again, probably into another creature, play it, equip, repeat... you see what I mean? The creatures are recyclable, and you get two cards for one little creature you probably dont care about. Then you can just keep doing that all game...

April 6, 2012 3:51 p.m.

landot says... #12

Seems neat. Just from a judge / rules lawyer point of view -- instead of creating a whole new 'noble' zone, can you just use the command zone, instead? seems easier / more straightforward.

April 6, 2012 4:45 p.m.

Minousmancer says... #13

landot that doesn't work, it would make this format broken and boring to play.

As an example: Take my deck:pauper-chastic-flow deck, if I could keep casting Eon HubMTG Card: Eon Hub after it was destroyed, it is a guarantee that I'd win, but because I can't I have to race against time to kill my opponent before the Cumulative upkeep-of 2 life takes me out.

April 6, 2012 4:57 p.m.

seibertross says... #14

Great start! I threw it up on Reddit for more attention for it. (I've been wanting a format like this to abuse always having a Nim DeathmantleMTG Card: Nim Deathmantle)

"I don't see the point in creating a "Noble" zone, other than as a nominal way to set your format apart: the rules already support the Command zone as a place to put objects/markers other than commanders, notably emblems. Why not just use the Command zone?"

I think this is a valid point. It's better not to try to introduce a new zone to the game if possible. And this way we don't have to write any new rules except maybe a note that "Nobles can not return to the Command Zone as Generals may".

Anyways, thanks for getting this started up! Looks like it has a good deal of promise to evolve into something fun.

April 6, 2012 5:38 p.m.

Minousmancer says... #15

seibertross thanks for sharing it, I posted it in the link down below as well!!!

http://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleMTG/

April 6, 2012 5:47 p.m.

vishnarg says... #16

Yeah, that would make sense, don't want to add new zones to the game, and its actually easier to explain in the rules: "All of the same rules that apply to a General apply to a Noble, but Nobles cannot return to the command zone once being cast." This seems like a great way to get new players interested and understanding Magic the Gathering. It could be a side mini tournament at FNM's.... a few Noble players, seperate from the standard.

April 6, 2012 5:51 p.m.

MLBurt says... #17

This is extremely cool. I want to get building decks for this with my friends.

April 6, 2012 6:33 p.m.

DamenPulse says... #18

My first deck for noble. Works pretty well, at least from my playtesting:

deck:noble-life-gain

April 6, 2012 6:43 p.m.

vishnarg says... #19

Alright, another one: Noble: Elvish Archdruid

April 6, 2012 8:31 p.m.

KorApprentice says... #20

Isn't is really fun to make Noble decks? I can't stop, I've got 6 already, if you count the banned ones. Those can be fun too, just not for the opponent.

April 6, 2012 8:34 p.m.

vishnarg says... #21

Hahaha yeah. I'm just experimenting... it's all new to me, and hey, I have no life... yeah, I'm mostly trying to make decks that would be presentable to wizards as a legitimate marketable format. The elf one would have to be a very expensive precon... but man if this ever became real, I would buy it.

April 6, 2012 8:40 p.m.

Zarum says... #22

yay! I made a sliver noble deck =)

Sliver Nobility

April 6, 2012 9:44 p.m.

DamenPulse says... #23

How far do you guys want to take this format? Do you hope to get it to become a very known thing, and have any of you brought it up with your local game store? Cause I think that it would be totally awesome if we could get this format to be a recognized format thats played at FNM, or even when the store does there weekly EDH tournaments

April 7, 2012 12:03 a.m.

Logan Pitt says... #24

Ezuri, Renegade LeaderMTG Card: Ezuri, Renegade Leader green ramp and you win turn 4 everytime.

April 7, 2012 12:49 a.m.

KorApprentice says... #25

It would not be very difficult to remove Ezuri, Renegade LeaderMTG Card: Ezuri, Renegade Leader, so it really depends on the deck you are playing against. A good Noble deck will have answers to such a thing.

April 7, 2012 1:39 a.m.

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