Noble: Ward of bones

I made another. This one is Land Destruction.

They also have other from the vault sets. not all of those cards are legal in this format mind you but still other good places to start.

noble: burning suggestions needed

Alright then, I call the Omnath, Locus of Mana deck, and the Kresh the Bloodbraided one too.

Everyone in this thread gets a giant f***ing gold star! I'm thrilled to see all of the positive feedback from everyone and the constructive criticism too. Thanks to everyone who has posted a deck, I'm trying to look at all of them and give feedback where I can.

@aloehart199: Yeah, Cloudpost isn't banned someone might break it but for now it's pretty much fine. Without Vesuva it's heavily nerfed, and if Vesuva is in the rare slot it's a bit harder to use.

@Ohthenoises & Minousmancer: I love the idea to market this to Wizards, and I love the idea to use the From the Vault: Legends set as the centerpiece, but I'm not sure that Wizards will love the idea of printing those cards again. I think that we can probably come up with other cards that would make for interesting Nobles and build around them. If you put together any decks like this let me know, I would be thrilled to spread the love around as much as possible. It would be amazing to go to the store and see a deck that me/you/tappedouterX made up for sale. One thing about how Wizards seems to construct their decks is that they stick to using only 1-2 of a given card, most likely not to drive down prices of the more valuable cards in the list. So I think we should stick to this method. I'll start putting some thought into it. I'll probably make a separate thread to track who is doing what and to let people volunteer to make decks and vote for the best ones. Maybe Wizards need a business analyst / project manager? I'd jump ship from my current job in a heartbeat.

@parasitian: It's already been answered buy just to reiterate: if you are using a sideboard and have 4 uncommons in your mainboard, you won't be able to include any uncommons in your sideboard.

@Bingbing: Agreed, so far I think Tinker is fine. You can get some nice uncommons like Loxodon Warhammer, Sensei's Divining Top, Skeleton Shard, etc, but nothing seems game-breaking.

@vishnarg: Isn't it interesting that it seems like a card like Stoneforge Mystic would be broken in this format, but the common/uncommon targets are pretty balanced! Without Batterskull and Jace, the Mind Sculptor, Stoneforge is just "good" instead of "insane".

@squire1 : Regarding color identity, it was a conscious decision chose not to use color identity to restrict deck building. It helps differentiate this format from EDH (which I personally love), and I want people to be able to choose artifacts like Steel Overseer or Karn, Silver Golem as their Noble without having to build a bland colorless deck. If casual players want to build based on color identity that is fine. And as KorApprentice said, any rare or mythic can be the noble card. Thanks for the input!

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@ Minousmancer: Skullclamp is banned because it combos insanely with things like Dross Scorpion, Disciple of the Vault, Arcbound Ravager, Siege-Gang Commander, anything that spits out 1/1 tokens really.

@ landot: You have a good point that we should try to avoid making additional zones. I didn't want to use the "Command Zone" because of some of the rules that it uses in EDH that I didn't want carried over to this format. For example, in EDH the Commander is announced and is face-up, but in Noble you don't know what your opponent is running until they cast it. More importantly, I don't want people to be confused and think that their Noble Card can return to that zone once cast. With that said, I've thought it over and decided to change the rules to eliminate the "Noble zone" and use the "Command zone" instead. Thanks for the constructive criticism!

@seibertross: Thanks for posting to reddit! I'm a redditor too, so I'll poke my head in over there to see if I can answer any questions. Regarding the Noble Zone please see the comment I directed towards landot above. The complaint was certainly valid, and ultimately I believe the correct call is to use the Command Zone instead. I've updated the rules accordingly.

@DamenPulse: Personally, I'm willing to push this format to the top! I would love to leave a lasting imprint on the game and how people play. One of my favorite MtG stories is the way that EDH was started by some friends playing casually, and the format was so successful that Wizards has now printed several decks specifically for the format! And personally, I wouldn't mind finding a new line of work at Wizards... Also, regarding your Emrakul question, if he died he would be shuffled back into your library. The Noble card acts just like a regular card once it has been cast.

@user:Logan%20Pitt: Ezuri is good, but fragile. Kor is right, he would make a great Noble card... so let's see a deck!

@Spoofed: I'll consider banning ad nauseum. It is a powerful card, but without Pact of Negation as backup it should be difficult to use. Thanks for the deck, I'll give it a run and see what shakes out!

@ci4: The Noble Card can be any rare or mythic rare card.

@elbenji: Vendilion Clique seems fine, I don't see any reason to ban it.

It seems like elves are bastards in any format:

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/noble-elf-deck/

Damn, how do you guys do the thing where you name the deck and it links you?

I love this idea. I'd like to offer some suggestions, but I think they've probably all been mentioned. Truth be told I haven't read the near 200 comments that came before me...

Only getting one shot with the Noble seems a bit harsh, but maybe that's a good thing since you'll be fighting desperately to keep him alive. And it does make this format different to EDH.

It seems a bit weird that you can have a spell or enchantment or even a hammer as your allstar (hmmmm, now that I've said it I can't help but feel that's a better name... maybe for a Noble variant in the future?). I wonder if limiting your allstar to creatures would make it a bit fairer and cut back on the combo abusing style decks that have already been mentioned.

I feel like the uncommons could form a sort of A team on their own, so with that in mind it could be fun to limit each uncommon selection to a maximum of 1 rather than allowing playsets. I just feel that this gives your A team more character if each is unique than having four clones.

Finally, I think that there should be a bonus for choosing a rare instead of a mythic rare - I think you should be allowed 4 uncommons and a mythic rare or 7 uncommons and a rare.

2x "[" in front and 2x "]" behind the name in the URL to the deck same with cards, users i.e

URL: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/noble-elf-deck/

Deck name: noble-elf-deck

With one bracket: [noble-elf-deck]

now with double brackets: deck:noble-elf-deck

Card Necropotence: Necropotence

User Minousmancer: Minousmancer

Sometimes like with graft if you want to link the name you get Graft which links you to a deck so in addition to using the name you need to add the "user" followed by ":" so it looks like this without the brackets user:graft now with brackets graft.

@Graft I intend to take this directly to my local game store when I get home (I'm on vacation, so can't do it now), and hopefully see if I can get this to run on sunday afternoons as another tournament. I think a lot of people would come given that it isn't on the same day as standard. I know I have a few friends who would enjoy this is well. I want this to go all the way to the top, cause its a viable format, and loads of fun. I think its important to get this in the attention of wizards, but I think its also important that we don't get too far ahead of ourselves and trip over our own two feet trying to get this out there. With small steps, we can make this huge, it will just take some time.

EDIT: Linked to a deck, sorry.

DamenPulse, did you mean: [user:graft] - graft?

Hi there this format seems interesting and possibly incredibly broken, or just really fun. Anyways you may want to decide a strict turn limit on when they're expected to win, as you said 'turn 5 or so'. You banned Splinter Twin and that wins on turn four, which is almost turn five. I just think you need to be really clear on the time limit in the format or risk just banning everything...

I did, I made the exact mistake you outlined in your post. XD

Anyways: A new deck has been made. Its based off of Doran, the Siege Tower. I feel like its not quite as good as my other deck (deck:noble-life-gain), but would be fun to play. It needs some tweaking and feedback from you people.

Here it is: deck:noble-doran

Just banned Bloodchief Ascension -- wins turn 4 with great frequency.

@mandroid: Turn 5 does seem to be the right number to allow both players to feel like it wasn't a completely one-sided game. I'll update the post to be more clear about this.

Hmm, well a weird thing Pauper has is Empty the Warrens can combo really well with a lot of other commons and takes someone out in the T1-T4 stage. Possible banhammer?

I second empty the warrens for the hammer... it's just too good.

I notified yeaGO! of the existence of this format. Hopefully he will allow it to become an option when you click to choose what format your deck is, that would be nice to just have a noble format on the site instead of having to click Pauper or Unformat all the time.

Tendrils of Agony is better than Empty the Warrens and I still don't think it should be banned. We are trying to ban the cards that make storm decks go off by turn 3, but we don't want to ban storm as a mechanic. It would be best if we could make it viable without banning the storm cards themselves.

the only problem i see with marketing it to wizards is you have to keep in mind when they take a product they market and sell it in a packaged form, how much money are people really going ot be willing to spend on 55 commons, 4 uncommons, and 1 rare-mithic?

Now it might sell pretty well if all 60 cards were unique to the release or had alternate art from the normal version.

Commons can get quite expensive, I'm sure they could make the product worth its weight in salt.

Or all foil sets ;)

ALL FOIL AAAAAAAAAHHH YES WIN. But I would actually rather have the salt... I like salt...

this looks fun, Noble Madness

Deck #3. Not extremely viable because Scavenging Ooze is so expensive.

deck:noble-counters-win-again

Noble Equipment Spam is my build for this. Thing is...

What's the feeling on Invisible Stalker?