Suns_Champion I wanted to share with you my boros deck that I have been running since the yr 2014. I believe going wide with iroas is also a solid strategy but I think this one is better. Since you are the boros leader of the boros legion I wanted to share my masterwork. What's your thoughts?

griffstick for the Legion! You've been playing this deck longer than I've been playing Magic!

What I like: Arcbond, Knollspine Dragon, Pyrohemia, and Infiltration Lens (all remind me of my Neheb deck), Haktos the Unscarred, Firemane Avenger (one of the first cards I ever saw and the reason I like Boros so much).

Here's what I'm noticing. Sorry if this steps on any pet cards or the deck as a whole.

• Somewhat high curve. This would be fine if not for the...
• Lack of ramp (you have 8, arguably 10, but most are 3 cmc or more which I do not like).
• Lack of draw (you have 9, but most are conditional or one-of effects).
• Lack of protection (you have 1, your creatures will get boardwiped).

So with that, here's some cards to consider.

Ramp: focus on 2 cmc ramp. Why? It comes out before your important creatures. It helps Iroas hit turn 3 every game. It saves mana.

• Boros Signet
• Arcane Signet
• Fire Diamond
• Marble Diamond
• Coldsteel Heart
• Fellwar Stone
• Talisman of Conviction
• Dockside Extortionist <- highly suggested

Draw: let's get some better draw in here.

• Ignite the Future great value and great rate
• Grenzo, Havoc Raiser goes along with attacking
• Tectonic Giant goes along with attacking
• Magus of the Wheel just solid
• Humble Defector political tool and pet card
• Tome of Legends repeatable draw, great for attacky decks
• Light Up the Stage not amazing but solid

Protection: Just some ways to not get blown out by a boardwipe.

• Selfless Spirit
• Legion's Initiative
• Make a Stand
• Unbreakable Formation

I do not have time to suggest cuts. Mull these over and let me know if you want further explanation for anything.

Suns_Champion if you have some time I'd like to see your take on Iroas! I've been struggling with that also but I just like the god so much to try another deck.

lil_cheez I only build decks when I have a unique vision or idea, something new to contribute to the commander. I have nothing new to say about Iroas. griffstick has a solid list, and you can see the improvements I would consider above. :)

Arcane Signet, Talisman of Conviction, Dockside Extortionist, Grenzo, Havoc Raiser, Tectonic Giant, and Legion's Initiative are all being strongly considered.

I might be biased but Neheb, the Eternal might go well here, with all the evasive attackers he will give you a lot of mana in the second main phases. It'll make your Knollspine Dragon easy to cast, cards you get with Grenzo easy to cast, goes with the X-spell theme, and makes Pyrohemia a potential player-killing machine.

Further more Neheb, the Eternal can give somewhat of a second main phase sorda like what Sword of Feast and Famine would do. For this deck it is more important since most of the time you cast out before attacking to either create devotion or make a buff to your army with something like Balefire Liege.

I haven't had good results with Neheb, the Eternal. Suns_Champion, I think Grenzo, Havoc Raiser will work better and its devotion is still 2 for 2 mana. I'm also considering cutting Knollspine Dragon for something else maybe Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite. What's your thoughts.

Hey griffstick! I'm currently making a Iroas Deck based on yours, and I can't help but recommend this:

Fireflux Squad: seeing how we've got quite the "on attack" effects, this guy really helps to put your big creatures on the field (for free, I might add) and get their effects right away! You have to exile a creature for it, but if you've got your tokens going just exile one of them, it's no downside at all!

Mangara, the Diplomat: good card advantage, opponents will think twice before going off with spells/attacking you with mass armies!

Shadowspear: amazing equipment, +1/+1 lifelink + trample, and it has anti-board protection for just 1 MANA?! Strongly suggest this one.

Embercleave: if you already have some creatures going and Iroas is unblocked, flashing this on for a whopping 16 commander damage for ONLY 2 MANA? INSANE! Even if they so desire to block Iroas, it also gives trample! It will hurt! Not to mention it gives you 2 red mana devotion!

As to what I think is best to remove for these:

Argentum Armor: the effect is nice and +6/+6 is dangerous, but the cost is too high and it might come too late to be useful.

Hero of Oxid Ridge: the effect is really good to deal with all the 1/1 blocks that could slow down your victory, but it seems like an overkill considering Iroas' menace.

Wheel of Fate: while gaining a fresh hand to go off is nice and all, having your opponents do the same might actually hinder your plans. As chaotic as this card can be, there's enough draw power in the deck, and I see this is kinda slow.

Basilisk Collar: considering most of the time you will be abusing Iroas' Indestructability, most equipped items go on him, and having deathtouch on him is not that much useful, since people either won't want to block it anyways or he's strong enough to kill most creatures thrown to block him. As great as this can be on other creatures as well, when you attack with them and Iroas is out, they also don't take damage, meaning they generally won't be blocked. All of this makes deathtouch kinda underpowered. Lifelink won't be a lost trait if you swap it with Shadowspear, and it costs the same! (Also, trample is nice!)

These are my suggestions, hope you like it! Always looking for updates on this deck of yours, I love Boros.

Elie I feel like those are fantastic suggestions. All of those cards you chose to remove are perfectly fine. I would not change a thing because this decks feels old fashioned to me, and I like that. Based off of your suggestions cards to remove. I get a taste of what you're up against. So if you're up against any Chulane, Teller of Tales decks you'll have soo much fun punching through for damage. If that sounds like your jam then this deck is for you.

However before i make any changes i would have to consider my meta first. So with that being said I have my eyes on a few cards already and I have a chopping block of cards too. Would you like to know them?

griffstick certainly! There's swarm and aristocrats (Angel of Jubilation is the biggest shutdown against them) as meta at my locals, so I'm a big fan of punching through. I'd love to see what cards you have in mind!

Well swarm isn't a problem because all the board sweepers are gonna take care of that. Cards like Pyrohemia, Powerstone Minefield, Lightmine Field these are to much to handle for any token or goblin deck. Plus theres Blasphemous Act, Mizzium Mortars, Arcbond, Magmaquake, Starstorm, and Fault Line. Unless the swarm is flying you'll be alright. If aristocrats is the problem add a lil bit more graveyard hate. Graveyard decks are some of the strongest decks in edh.

The cards I've been looking at, are the ones in the maybe board. I updated it today.

Oh and I strongly recommend Grenzo, Havoc Raiser

• Angelic Skirmisher
• Hero of Oxid Ridge
• Knollspine Dragon
• Neheb, the Eternal
• Victory's Herald
• Altar of the Pantheon
• Argentum Armor
• Rest in Peace

Those cards are on my chopping block.

When building Iroas remember that having Iroas as a creature is very important. So devotion is very important. Try to avoid adding artifacts to your build.

I agree with these being replaceble too! Maybe except Neheb, his post-combat mana generation is a great combo with Pyrohemia. Amplified with Gisela, Blade of Goldnight, it is my favorite win condition!

Grenzo, Havoc Raiser is a great card too, I will add it too.

About the artifacts, I feel too many could be troublesome, yes! The exceptions should be mana rocks only. Embercleave is a nice touch tho, because it gives 2 devotion. Will play around my cards to see what artifacts could stay and go.

We shall bring Victory to the God himself, thanks for the tips!

Yea Elie you're right about Neheb, the Eternal it does have alot of potential to help close out and win the game. Not to mention it combos with Aggravated Assault

Have you considered Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite at your top end? Its a pretty brutal card I run in my Iroas deck. I also run things like Cavalier of Flame and Urabrask the Hidden Purphoros, Bronze-Blooded to enable haste. I think the 99 can be built so many different ways its alnost not worth listing cards if its just a combat deck. I have a few combo lines as alt win cons and a light stax/control theme. Lots of wraths. I also run a lot of 2 drop mana rocks so I can put Iroas out on turn 3 most games, then play a Day of Judgment or Shatter the Sky or Wrath of God on T4. Even with a more combat focused build (I have rebuilt Iroas several times trying to make him good) I find it awkward trying to find a time to cast him after T3 because the deck is full of 4 and 5 drops that you want to get on the field.

Oh yeah Tome of Legends and Mask of Memory have drawn me so many friggin cards in Iroas I feel theyre worth mentioning to anyone trying to make Boros creatures do stuff in EDH

You're right DadHumanPraetor, you can build Iroas so many different ways. The way you built yours is not the same as mine. Elesh norn is likely gonna replace Knollspine Dragon

I enforce Knollspine Dragon replacement. In my case, it is because I use Fireflux Squad and it could activate Knoll's effect at the wrong time. Was thinking about something like Etali, Primal Storm, untill I can save up for an Elesh Norn, that is. If it is a FFA Commander game (which is mostly what we play at my locals), Etali could easily mean 3+ cards for me to use for FREE.

I've made changes to the deck. I just need to update it here on tappedout. Not only that but i need to update the deck description aswell. Stay tuned for the update. I'll post it to the update notes.

Also how do you feel about adding embercleave? or winota?

maybe torbran?

It's getting hard to make any changes. To be honest. The only changes I'll be doing in the future will be for speed. I'm gonna focus on lowering the cmc of all the cards. At the same time try to increase devotion.

Ive played versions of Iroas that were faster and lower to the ground, kind of like building red deck wins, it wasnt nearly as effective in edh. I think you are right to have your curve a little on the higher side to actually get that lethal damage. What do you think of the new Mazemind Tome ? I found a slot for it in my Iroas deck, I cut Tome of Legends for it, but havent had many chances to play yet to see if it's too slow.