Izzet Busted? Probably!

Commander / EDH FeralKitten

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LeiceTea says... #1

Mana Geyser Could infinite with Reiterate and you could Comet Storm to take the game.

November 13, 2015 10:41 p.m.

FeralKitten says... #2

Oh very nice, definitely putting that in. Thanks LeIceTea!

November 13, 2015 10:41 p.m.

LeiceTea says... #3

With that infinite mana combo you combo with Stroke of Genius by Casting Reiterate X times where X is the number of opponents and make everyone deck themselves

Maybe Tempt with Vengeance as an alternate wincon. You could potentially have everyone get 20 1/1 elementals with haste that would give you 40+ then play Contagion Engine to kill off 1 players elementals and kill them.

November 13, 2015 10:48 p.m.

SolarFlare13 says... #4

November 16, 2015 10:15 a.m.

magicevan11 says... #5

Hello FeralKitten. I got a lot of inspiration from your Daretti deck a long time ago, so now, perhaps, it's time that I returned the favor.

My list:

Mizzix up in yo Bizzix

Here's some quick thoughts after reading through your list:

Think Twice isn't that great considering that the flashback doesn't increase the cmc of the card. So let's say that you cast it going from 1 experience counters to 2. The flashback won't up your counters to 3. I think a card like Compulsive Research would be better since it lets you go three cards deep. Discarding a land isn't an issue.

Darksteel Plate is good, but speaking for my meta at least, exile and bouncing are too prevalent for it to be good. That is a question you have to ask yourself. Is Darksteel Plate good for my meta?

I think that the counterspells with x in their costs really shine with Mizzix. The difference between leaving two blue mana open and leaving one blue mana open is significant, IMO. Condescend, Syncopate, Power Sink, Spell Burst, Clash of Wills, and Broken Ambitions are great because you get to cast more spells! Mizzix will handle the colorless requirements for you. You only need to spend 1 blue + (number of experience counters + 1) to get an experience counter.

Inexorable Tide: I consider my Mizzix deck to be very tempo-based. Inexorable Tide looks weak to me. I'm crazy, right? Well, consider all the instants and sorceries you could be casting with that 5 mana. I'd rather draw tons of cards to set up my combo than cast tide, wait a turn, and then draw a lot of cards. Also, I consider the "sweet spot" for my Mizzix deck to be 5 experience counters, but if your deck can make use out of a crazy high amount of counters be my guest. I'd rather make infinite red mana with reiterate than use the "free mana" off of the experience counters.

Epic Experiment: While I really like this card in 60 card casual, I think it is a build around me card in EDH that isn't worth it, much like Primal Surge. X spells and counterspells, non instants and sorceries, don't interact well with Epic Experiment, which is why I don't use it.

I would use Neurok Stealthsuit instead of Swiftfoot Boots because your opponent can respond to the equip activated ability with spot removal. With stealthsuit, you activate the equip, your opponent puts Path to Exile on the stack, but you can pay two blue and attach it to Mizzix in response to the path.

All Is Dust is too good not to run unless you play against Sigarda, Host of Herons, and Karn, Silver Golem regularly.

Keep tuning!

November 16, 2015 2:42 p.m.

pikachu21 says... #6

I'm surprised you don't have Grapeshot or Brain Freeze if you have storm cards, or Cunning Wish/Burning Wish.

November 16, 2015 6:09 p.m.

FeralKitten says... #7

@SolarFlare13: Young Pyromancer is pretty good. I'll think about that one.

@pikachu21: I'm not running Grapeshot or Brain Freeze because they're mostly dead draws unless I'm going off infinitely Reiterateing, but at that point I prefer to just X spell or copy a burn spell for the win. Maybe I'm wrong here, as I've never played a storm deck. My group doesn't currently play with the wishes, but they're something to consider.

@magicevan11: I have to run now, but I'll reply to you soon!

November 16, 2015 8:56 p.m.

FeralKitten says... #8

Hey there magicevan11! I agree Think Twice isn't optimal, so it may get swapped soon. Darksteel Plate is good in my meta since there are a lot of wrath effects and it gives me a repeatable chump blocker. So far (4 games), Inexorable Tide has been pretty great, but I could see it being cut for another mana spell like Pyretic Ritual. Epic Experiment is definitely spotty, but man it's so much fun to just hit a bunch of spells and rack up a few experience counters along with it. I like the idea of Neurok Stealthsuit, so I'll see if I can dig one up. All Is Dust will be in, just need to get one for this deck.

Regarding the X counterspells, I'm generally not a fan of conditional counters, though I've been thinking of running a few like Mindswipe (for the damage) or Spell Burst (reusable). In theory X counterspells would be good, have you played with them? I would think for me to get value I would need to load up on more, but I'm not sure I would want to cut that much more from this list.

Thanks for the suggestions, and I'm sure I'll be making constant changes, just like I did (and still am doing) with Daretti :)

November 16, 2015 11:02 p.m.

Ender666666 says... #9

I plan on building a Mizzix deck shortly. Inspired by your Daretti deck's name, I'm gonna call mine "Mizzle's Spizzles". I'm sure you'll think of a cool name though.

November 17, 2015 2:04 p.m.

FeralKitten says... #10

Nice one Ender666666, wish I thought of that!

November 17, 2015 9:31 p.m.

Ender666666 says... #11

Thanks man, it just kinda came to me in a bolt of inspiration.

November 17, 2015 9:45 p.m.

Atony1400 says... #12

Where's Ral Zerek?

My Izzet deck, maybe you can get some ideas;

How to CounterBurn.

November 24, 2015 10:07 a.m.

FeralKitten says... #13

I thought about Ral Zarek but he just doesn't do enough for this deck. Thanks for the suggestion though Atony1400.

November 25, 2015 12:11 a.m.

Atony1400 says... #14

Yea, he doesn't have much synergy in my deck either, but extra turns and untapping is always nice! Also, Jace, Architect of Thought and Chandra, the Firebrand could go here. Plus, there may be an infanate spell copy could be possible between Chandra, the Firebrand + Melek, Izzet Paragon .

November 25, 2015 7:15 a.m.

Ender666666 says... #15

Have you thought about adding in Fuel for the Cause, Steady Progress, or Volt Charge?

November 25, 2015 9:34 a.m.

Do I care if you like spells? No. Why? Because...

I like trains.

November 25, 2015 10:41 a.m.

FeralKitten says... #17

Hey Ender666666, I'm thinking about Fuel for the Cause since it's essentially Counterspell with a perk and I want to add a few more counterspells to the deck. The other two seem ok but a little on the weak side. I'm at the point where the deck feels good to me and it's getting hard to make cuts. I will say I'd like to get a more consistent turn 3 Mizzix of the Izmagnus so I'll probably add some 2-cost mana rocks and try out some 2-cost cost-reducers like the medallion cycle.

November 25, 2015 3:20 p.m.

MrHighscore says... #18

If you want more counter spells you should add Power Sink. It is amazing with Mizzix.

Have you had a chance to try out Sphinx-Bone Wand yet? It looks like a good idea, but I can't get it to work...

Cheers

November 25, 2015 3:35 p.m.

FeralKitten says... #19

Hey MrHighscore, I haven't had a chance yet. I'm hoping that's going to be in today's mail. With the games I've played and goldfished, it can easily kill the table. The key is to chain a bunch of spells (duh), but things that help with that are High Tide, Turnabout, Time Spiral, Epic Experiment and of course the infinite Reiterate combos. Basically things that enable the casting of spells (mana and cards). I'll definitely consider Power Sink since I think I have an old-school Revised edition hanging around.

November 25, 2015 4:39 p.m.

atm0220 says... #20

can some one explain how Desperate Ritual makes infinite mana

November 27, 2015 10:11 p.m.

These might not be the best suggestions but Hypersonic Dragon and Talrand, Sky Summoner.

December 19, 2015 6:47 p.m.

UVAFoozle says... #22

Rite of Replication doesn't do too much most of the time but 6 guttersnipes is pretty funny. Up yours oloro

December 19, 2015 7:47 p.m.

saj0219 says... #23

Two thoughts:

  1. No Personal Tutor or Preordain?
  2. Pact of Negation doesn't seem that great to me here if only because it doesn't have a CMC, so it can't take advantage of Mizzix of the Izmagnus. It won't get you an extra counter and it won't have its cost reduced...
December 19, 2015 8:59 p.m.

saj0219 says... #24

Oh also, I forgot... I love miracles with Mizzix. More specifically, Reforge the Soul. If you draw into it, it still counts as a 5 CMC spell as far as getting you an experience counter, but it costs way less. Even if you don't draw into it, it's not too hard to cast it at roughly Wheel of Fortune cost.

December 19, 2015 9:06 p.m.

FeralKitten says... #25

@Mtg_mill - I'm purposely low on creatures to maximize the possibility of getting spells that will get to the combo pieces, whatever path that may take. Talrand, The Sky Summoner was previously in the deck but him as a win condition takes a whole turn (though sometimes you can go off EOT before yours), and often just sat in my hand while I was racking up experience counters. Having said that, both Talrand and Hypersonic Dragon are solid suggestions for other Mizzix builds.

@UVAFoozle - Rite of Replication is awesome, and my initial build paired it with Dualcaster Mage for some infinite token/copy spell shenanigans, but overall the spell is too inconsistent for me because there's no guarantee you'll have a relevant target. This is another card I agree would be good in other Mizzix builds though.

@saj0219 - Thank you for the Personal Tutor suggestion, I knew I was missing something. There's no Preordain or Reforge the Soul because I'm having trouble cutting cards at this point. Pact of Negation is primarily in here to protect yourself on the turn you're going off with a combo, which is exactly what it did today on a game-winning turn.

Thank you all for the comments and suggestions!

December 20, 2015 12:02 a.m.

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