DarkRequiem says... #3
Andd there's a black aura from Innistrad if I'm not mistaken. It brings back enchanted creature if it dies (nex upkeep maybe?). It depicts an Angel and a demon facing each other...
Sorry for the triple post.
January 25, 2016 8:49 p.m.
No need to aoloigize for a triple post, I do it all the time!
I'll put in Harvester of Souls and It That Betrays, what should I remove besides Shimmering Grotto and Unknown Shores?
I have none of the other suggestions you just brought up.
You mean Unhallowed Pact, that's from AVR. I also think I don't have one.
Most of my collection is RTR or newer, because that's when I started playing.
January 25, 2016 9:08 p.m.
I was wrong, I checked my small box of Conspiracy draft cards, and found a CNS Unhallowed Pact, last card in the box! What are the odds!
January 25, 2016 9:34 p.m.
Squirrel_of_War says... #7
DarkRequiem's Jarad deck is kind of like a mix between two of my Golgari decks, I like it!
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January 25, 2016 10:12 p.m.
DarkRequiem says... #8
That's it. The Pact might go well in here.
Grotto and Shores are lands that I would only use in 3 or 5 colored decks. Mire could be cool. Do you run enough non-basic lands to make the Thicket count? I don't think you do. A basic land would suit you better. Or Golgari Guildgate.
I'll check what I'd remove later today. But I know I'd start by the PWalkers. They don't add enough to the deck, I think.
Squirrel_of_War, my own Jarad deck came to be after I removed him from my Jund deck. This guy is quite powerful, no doubt! I love the symetri on the build. I'll look into your decks later today.
January 26, 2016 3:45 a.m.
DarkRequiem says... #9
Sorry, guys. Had a very long day today and am quite tired. I'll have to check your decks tomorrow with more detail.
In a very quick glance, I'd remove the planeswalkers. I'd also remove Dark Deal, Despise, Drown in Sorrow, Duress, In Garruk's Wake, Smallpox, Seek the Horizon and Bubbling Cauldron. That's 11 cards.
In place of those I'd add Archfiend of Depravity, Bonehoard, Bow of Nylea, Deadbridge Goliath, Death's Presence, Golgari Signet, Necromantic Summons, Terra Stomper and Ulamog's Crusher, from your Sideboard. 9 cards, leaving 2 free slots so far. Seriously, I'd get some of the stuff you got on your maybe.
On a side note, do you buy the dual decks and the commander decks? Although a bit expensive, they do come with stuff you might enjoy and save you the trouble of buying singles.
January 26, 2016 8:20 p.m.
Only duel decks I own are the Zendikar and Tibalt ones, and no commander decks, I did order Golgari Signet, Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord and Bonehoarder which will be in between Friday and next Wednesday.
Although, I know someone who owns all the rares from all 5 C14 decks. I already asked about Swiftfoot Boots, Sol Ring, Disciple of Bolas, Butcher of Malakir, Grave Titan, Nighthowler, , and Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath. I am also seperately asking if they have a Golgari Cluestone.
Back to the deck, I'm not sure if I want to cut Seek the Horizon or In Garruk's Wake, StH is a better ramp than Peregrination, and I wanted to include IGW because I wanted that signeture wipe/removal that black offers, (although I just remembered I put in Drown in Sorrow.)
January 26, 2016 9:12 p.m.
I was debating buying the "Plunder the Graves" C15 precon, but I figured that wouldn't be necessary because I have alot of the cards already, and I should save the $37+,
January 26, 2016 9:15 p.m.
DarkRequiem says... #12
Well, Cultivate and Kodama's Reach are way better than what options you've been considering.
Drown in Sorrow doesn't do enough on EDH. You'll be facing big creatures. Not X/1 or X/2 kiddies.
With It That Betrays, the Archfiend is better than IGW, hands down. And it provides you with a body to sac if needed be.
Avenger of Zendikar from the duel deck might not be too bad. It offers you a nice body and some tokens that could help you hold the line. Plus free +1/+1 counters which you seem prone on using.
January 27, 2016 3:57 a.m.
I was also considering Primal Command and Groundswell, also from the duel deck.
Besides considerations, I feel In Garruk's Wake destroys everything, and doesn't allow for them to save 2, like Archfiend of Depravity. I think both together could be a good combo. If you add in It That Betrays, it is a win-con. I do like Avenger of Zendikar, and I was wondering if I should add in something like Catacomb Sifter or Pawn of Ulamog to make ramp scions?
January 27, 2016 10:22 a.m.
DarkRequiem says... #15
On my build I ended up choosing between Deathreap Ritual and Harvester of Souls. But I do have a good amount of card advantage in other forms so I ended up preferring the card draw with legs.
IGW costs way too much. You get almost the same effect with the Archfiend (ok, they do save 2 but it forces them to chose and it also serves some politics in the game). More so if you have Dictate of Erebos or any variant (I'd say that Butcher of Malakir and Savra, Queen of the Golgari are mandatory in such approach) and It That Betrays. And yes, that's something hard to beat. I still prefer the symmetrical effect of killing everyone on the same turn by saccing a big creature to Jarad. :)
Catacomb Sifter is interesting. I only own 1 copy and am going to use it on my Jund deck. On the other hand I did try a Pawn of Ulamog on old decks of mine, thinking it a bomb and somehow it was lust lacking. Try it out. You might like it though.
January 27, 2016 6:02 p.m.
Thanks, DarkRequiem, now the question is what do I take out?
January 30, 2016 9:13 p.m.
DarkRequiem says... #17
Considering your build I'd remove Enlarge (although it depends on how often you can enlarge a creature and then sac it to Jarad, considering the mana needed) and... Well, maybe Zendikar's Roil?
Creakwood Liege is better than the Roil and I'd also swap out Diabolic Tutor for Rune-Scarred Demon or Dark Petition.
January 31, 2016 7:29 a.m.
My friend has got a Rune-Scarred Demon and I'm trying to trade for it,
January 31, 2016 11:20 a.m.
Running a bunch of one off creature buffs seems bad. you're better off using creatures which inherently have buff abilities or which can scale according to some parameter (i.e. cards in graveyards).
So, first off, your ramp package needs a lot of work. Mana dorks, especially mana dorks which need a borad state to ramp are not good to use as your main source of ramp. Straight off the bat, you're better off using cards like Explosive Vegetation, Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Far Wanderings, Skyshroud Claim, Nature's Lore etc. They not only ramp but pull lands out of your deck and are resistant to board wipes. Also, Zendikar's Roil is not ramp.
Secondly, you want to look into your win con. Jarad works around sacing BIG creatures, so you want your deck to go high not wide. Volrath the Fallen is one of the more powerful cards you can look at as he has an inbuilt buff effect. He can also be used to pitch creatures to your graveyard which is important because given the kind of deck that this is, you'll want to run reanimation.
Other cards which are good with Jarad are cards like Nighthowler. The longer the game goes, the bigger they get. Heroes' Bane is also another self buffing creature.
Now onto the reanimation side of things. Because typically you'll be sacing non-token permanents, you want to run a good reanimation package to get the most value from your deck. Reanimate, Animate Dead, Dread Return, Nim Deathmantle are all excellent for this as they let you get in more than once with a big creature. you have some reanimaotn but you'll want a bit more.
If I may make a suggestion, trying to cull 100 cards is a bad idea. You're better off just picking a few cards which ou want to be your win condition, then looking at ramp, removal and card draw/tutors as well as land. Once you have all of these, you'll find you're already at about 100 cards. So then it comes down to tweaking. Just cramming the deck full of big creatures or "value" spells leads to a lack of focus and an all around slower deck.
January 31, 2016 10:19 p.m.
enpc,
I wasn't looking for advice, but ok. I was just looking on how to classify the cards in the "Other" catagory.
One other question, do you think Frontier Guide would be a suitable replacement to Karametra's Acolyte?
February 1, 2016 6:12 p.m.
Eh, it's ok. If you find that you have not much to do most turns it would be better though, yeah.
As for categories, some of those cards can go under "Utility", some can go under "Removal" and then just add a "Win Condition" category and you're golden.
February 1, 2016 6:26 p.m.
DarkRequiem says... #23
Truly, I don't think categories are that important... But that's just me.
February 2, 2016 9:43 a.m.
DarkRequiem, Squirrel_of_War; so I'm looking into buying more cards for it, here's what I got so far:
Getting:
1x Vraska the Unseen (with token)
1x Sol Ring
1x Savra, Queen of the Golgari
I'm considering also getting:
1x Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest
1x Explosive Vegetation or Sylvan Scrying
What do you think?
March 21, 2016 7:16 a.m.
Hey, Squirrel_of_War. Besides all of the above (besides Explosive Vegetation as well; I chose Sylvan Scrying instead), what would you consider a necessity to get for the deck?
DarkRequiem says... #1
I'm on my phone right now and this is not the best way for me to review decks. I'll be a lot slower to reply to you since I'll only be back at the PC tomorrow night.
Anyway, yes, It that Betrays and Harvester of Souls should be in.
You're wrong about Jarad's being a mana ability. Mana abilities produce mana. Like mana rocks and mana dorks. The Bracers work quite well with Jarad.
There's nothing wrong with your instants and sorceries. They might need to be tweaked later but right now I'd focus on the remainer of the deck.
The lands you suggested are bad. You're talking 2 for 1. Btw, do you have any Temple of the False God? Mistifying maze?
How extreme on your budget are Eternal Witness and Solemn Simulacrum?
January 25, 2016 8:42 p.m.