Sure @Synyster2597

First off, you imprint Swan Song onto Isochron scepter, and have 2+ artifact mana available. You cast any counterable spell, and hold priority.

Now counter it with the imprinted swan song. Paradox engine triggers, and isochron scepter untaps, with the state now being an untapped isochron scepter + artifacts, and the original spell + swan song copy on the stack. We'll affectionately refer to this as the swan dance.

You repeat this process, adding more and more copies of swan song targeting the original spell. At some large number, you stop. We're not done, because allowing the stack to resolve here will mean only the first swan song resolves, and every other copy fizzles with no legal target. Instead, we cast Flusterstorm, storm count = some huge number, targeting one of the swan song copies. Paradox triggers, and isochron untaps.

We now perform the swan dance again, only this time we will target each of the flusterstorm copies with swan song. This way, each swan song copy will resolve countering each flusterstorm copy, and we will generate a very large number of swans.

Note: flusterstorm isn't even needed, it's just easier to understand. In the process where on the stack, you have:

• Copies of Swan Song Targeting spell X

• Some spell, X

You can start countering your copies of swan song which are targeting spell X, and get swans that way. You are countering your own swan song copies with other swan song copies to generate swans, and can even let spell X resolve at the end of the process.

Swan Song combo doesn't work...? If the top copy resolves, you get a bird, and the spell is countered. Thus, all the other copies fizzle, giving you no birds. The only way I can see this working is with an arbitrarily large number of spells to counter (storm).

Derp, just read your comments. Still, if it requires Flusterstorm to actually go off, that's another combo piece you need to have, so I'd mention that in the description. It's a lot of pieces that I'd suspect people could see coming from pretty far away, infinite counterspells notwithstanding.

Nope, flusterstorm just make it easier for some people to understand rather than using the other swan song copies.

Play spell, make 2000 swan song copies targeting that spell, make 2000 swan song copies, each targeting one of the first 2000 copies, 2000 swan songs counter 2000 others, you get 2000 swans, original spell resolves

Ohh. Nice!

What’s the point of running the snow covered lands in this deck?

Partially a meme these days, but the idea is, some decks (such as Teferi) run extraplanar lens. Since they don't want other blue players to receive the benefits off their basic islands, they run snow-covered islands instead. Some players (like me) run snow covered lands on the very unlikely chance this comes up. There's no real reason for snow covered mountains except the meme factor

Hey there, I am doing a bit of research on The more competitive decks out there for my Stax deck.

• So the first question is: what kind of "Stax" or "Hate cards" would shut this deck down or make it impossible for you to win under certain singular or combined Effects?

• And the second question is about Sanctum Prelate as I am trying to gather as much information about the stopping power of calling specific CMC with this card vs certain strategies, Would you consider CMC ,, or CMC to be more effective here to disrupt your gameplan?

This deck is best stopped by rule of law effects: Rule of Law, Arcane Lab, Eidolon of Rhetoric. QUite a bit of tempo is removed with Stony Silence/Null rod, and tax effects are only an inconvenience.

It's made to play through a decent amount of stax, and also runs a lot of bounce effects. The real best way to stop it would to to keep Jhoira off the table, keep artifact mana in check, or win before it does.

There's bounce for prelate at both 1 and 2, but in this deck 2 would stop more anti-stax spells.

Again Thanks!!!

I love this list. I'm currently building it and waiting for cards in the mail etc. I've been play testing it with the cards I do have and am wondering if you've ever thought about including Mindlock Orb? It might seem counter intuitive at first, but Jhoira has a card draw engine like nothing else in EDH really. She also doesn't run or really rely on tutors more heavily than other commanders in my experience so being able to shut down other decks while maintaining her insane card draw might swing quite heavily in her favor.

I think you'd just want Stranglehold at that point, it's the same effect/cmc, harder to remove, doesn't get hit by our artifact bounce, and you only miss a single card draw

I can’t believe I didn’t think of Stranglehold when the only deck I play at the moment is Blood Pod. Haha.

Have you tried running Scroll Rack in this deck? Seems like it would be a great way to draw your deck if for any reason the storm tempo begins to fizzle.

So I played with this deck tonight for the third time ever and one thing I don’t see in this primer is that you can draw your entire deck with Jhoira, Sensei’s Divining Top, and either Etherium Sculptor or Helm of Awakening in play. Just something I felt was worth mentioning for people who are hoping to pilot it.

@Spiderhead you can't, the draw is on cast of Sensei's, and you can't activate it until it resolves.

Say you had 2 lands on top of your deck, you cast senseis, draw trigger, senseis resolves. You draw the top land. You activate senseis to draw, draw land 2. Senseis is now on top of your library, and you can't keep going.

Thanks for that descriptive reply. Some of the subtleties of this game still elude me. Here I was thinking I was all awesome for figuring out how to break Jhoira. Haha.

Haha all good, it would work as a n ETB trigger. As an ETB trigger to draw, we could do all sorts of broken nonsense, like blinking artifacts

Any suggestions on upgrades from War of the Spark expansion?

@nonickslick: Narset's Reversal for sure. Maybe Narset, Parter of Veils.

Yep, Narset, narset's reversal, and maybe blast zone

Hi have few questons hoping answers or tips 1.i'm running glacial chasm on my jhoira deck do you think it does enough or should it be replaced by prismatic vista? 2.thinking talisman of creativity but i'm running now mox amber instead or should i just replace talisman over prismatic vens? 3.i'm running pendrell mists do you think that card is too slow for 4 don't have tabernacle so i was thinking it is good replace? 4.doesn't have timetwister so is day's undoing good with narset combo or should i try cards like echo of eons?

Thank you already

Hey grrKate,

I don't think you should be getting attacked enough for chasm to do much, and if it's lower power you will win too fast for it to matter anyway. Prismatic vista is good.

You want as much ramp artifacts as possible, without running the terrible ones. The problem with amber is it doesn't ramp into Jhoira, and is only enabled by Jhoira and Baral. Talisman is better.

Tabernacle isn't a must, it could be a board wipe if needed.

Windfall is the twister replacement.

Hi thanks this helped lot i know blink of an eye with extra card can be huge thing but why not boomerang for annyoing things like glacial chasm or is words of wind enough and whipflare i see every decklist but i'm not seeing it neccecary card same is by force and baral have those game meaning or personal choices i play delay over whipflare and pendrell mists over baral