Jamesfurrow says... #2
gnarlicide thanks for looking over the deck! And i didnt think of Abbot of Keral Keep that sounds like fairly decent card to run. Also curious to how 4 4 drops is a little much. And that makes sence why finks is wanted now. It more 2v1 than a courser. Also what would you cut for what removal? I definitly think lowering the curve could help bob just i have hard times moving around cards sometimes
July 26, 2015 11:44 a.m.
gnarlicide says... #3
I would drop 1 Olivia, for either a copy of Duress, Iquisition of Kozilek or a Thoughtseize.
Your removal is actually fine. My bad.
I didn't see rabble master in there, if you choose to run abbot, swap rabble aster for it.
July 26, 2015 12:12 p.m.
Jamesfurrow says... #4
Hey Femme_Fatale, ChiefBell and scrotality ive updated the deck and was curious to how you guys think it looks? I posted in my update match ups i felt i have trouble in so i was curious if my sideboard awnsers them accordingly. Also was curious if you have any tips when facing such decks. Like im not sure if im supposed to be more agressive or passive and if so how do you determine when to switch gears if the tides seem to be changing?
August 7, 2015 12:28 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #5
Take out a Raging Ravine for a Swamp. Remove Tectonic Edge for Ghost Quarter. Remove a Terminate for an Abrupt Decay.
Uh ... Choke? Engineered Explosives? Why the hell do you have Languish? Rakdos Charm isn't that good anymore, if you want affinity hate use Creeping Corrosion/Ancient Grudge/Shatterstorm. Surgical Extraction holds no use as a 3 of. A one or two of maybe.
EDIT: Don't forget Rending Volley.
August 7, 2015 12:39 a.m. Edited.
Jamesfurrow says... #6
Thanks for commenting Femme_Fatale! Ill definitly search for a Choke or two. Also the reason i have Languish is because it is a budget version of Damnation since i cant ever find them and their price tag is a little hefty for me atm. Im also curious though on ur thoughts on how i should play against the decks i mentioned in my update. I feel like im never sure on how it should be played as in should i be more aggressive or on the defense.
August 9, 2015 9:34 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #7
Don't use Languish if you don't have a Damnation. Try Engineered Explosives, or Anger of the Gods. Both can be activated sooner, cost cheaper, and the explosives are more likely to save your own creatures in a one sided wrath.
For Twin, just make sure you have removal for their Deciever Exarch ready at all times. Beware of fliers, and abuse your discard.
Also, you have too many Scavenging Oozes and too many Huntmaster of the Fells Flip. 3 and 2 max is what I would go for each. Normally I go 2 Scoozes. Try getting another Olivia Voldaren, and more Kitchen Finks to supplement the lost Scoozes.
August 10, 2015 1:09 a.m.
Jamesfurrow says... #8
Hey ChiefBell, Femme_Fatale, and scrotality i updated the list and was curious to what you think of it so far. Ik ik no goyf is a problem but goyf is a very hard card to get for me due to his price tag.
Also Femme_Fatale i took your advise and dropped the Languish and had put olivia and thrun into the sideboard. They see, better for control and mirror match ups. Though i am keeping the ooze count to 4 for now because he is a really strong 2 drop though a 4th Thoughtseize may be worth the mainboard going to 3 of him. Also again thank you for the suggestion of Choke i definitly want to get 2 of them just havent been able to find them
August 20, 2015 10:08 p.m.
grumbledore says... #9
I like the list. In my grixis build I run 4x inquisition and have 2x thoightseize in the side. I almost never bring them in. Pretty much just against twin. Late game they are more of a dead draw, I find.
August 22, 2015 2:16 a.m.
grumbledore says... #10
Maybe Fulminator Mage in the side? The price on him has come way down. Also I just added Olivia to my grixis. Chick is meeeeeean lol. Have you tried Murderous Cut?
August 22, 2015 2:19 a.m.
TheFoilAjani says... #11
This deck looks like a blast to play! My only Kritik is the sideboard. I would do this;
For
+2 or 3 Rending Volley or Combust
+2 or 3 Domri Rade
Otherwise the list looks sweet! I love how it looks. Maybe find room for a Fauna Shaman? Final remark, I would update the description. It's super outdated.
November 14, 2015 12:56 a.m.
Jamesfurrow says... #12
TheFoilAjani Glad you enjoy the list and I just played it at my Fnm and went 4-0 Acually. I was agaisnt affinity elves boggles and a bant deck. And trust me golgari charm is much more relevant than a volley. And domri does absolutely nothing in this kind of a build. I would have to be more creature heavy. Also. I Am aware the description is out of date I had just put this version of the list togeather yesterday
November 14, 2015 1:27 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #13
You can get rid of a Terminate for a Rending Volley.
November 14, 2015 3:20 a.m.
TheFoilAjani says... #14
Awesome, but I'm curious. What do Chandra and the Charm actually do? Why are they in the board?
November 14, 2015 9:12 a.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #15
I'm not seeing much against burn. Perhaps 2x Feed the Clan and another Bow in the side?
November 14, 2015 9:20 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #16
I agree with perhaps 2 more burn match-up sideboard cards.
November 14, 2015 1:38 p.m.
Jamesfurrow says... #17
Hm I didn't think burn was too bad for me since I main so much life gain with 3 finks and 2 huntmaster as well as the bow itself. I'll definitly consider some anti burn cards.
TheFoilAjani The reason I have chandra in the sideboard is for more control and mirror like match ups. Chandra can provide much needed card advantage and her plus can help close out a game. If her ult is to ever go off and I get bolt or k-command then good god they better hope.
November 14, 2015 10:34 p.m.
I could be wrong, but 3 discard spells isn't the right number? I know traditional jund decks run many more, but do you have any reason to run only three?
December 17, 2015 10:18 a.m.
Jamesfurrow says... #19
kameenook I Acually run 6 discard spells but only 3 are Thoughtseize 1x inquistion and 2 k-command equal a total of 6 instances I can make you discard spells. I do not dedicate as much direct discard in my deck due to running Tasigur, the Golden Fang which will potentially mill them into my hand when I no longer need them. K-command just has more relevant modes and can still give me discard at INSTANT speed which is perfect for top deck mode which is the position jund wants to be in
December 17, 2015 10:30 a.m.
I could definitely be wrong, but I think you're more likely to topdeck blanks by running only the 4, it's weird to think of it like that, but ignoring Tasigre, you really want discard in your opener, and it's not great outside of that, therefore I tend to run more towards 6-7, but then again, I could be wrong.
December 17, 2015 2:36 p.m.
grumbledore says... #21
How does Jund Charm end up working out? I've been debating putting it into mine.
December 18, 2015 1:39 a.m.
Jamesfurrow says... #22
scrotality Jund Charm has been doing my deck justice. So far it's been pulling its weight in my area. I have roughly 4 regulars that rely on their graveyard so that mode is always powerful. Plus jund charm has allowed my Dark Confidants to even survive combat and put me into the kill zone sooner. Plus an instant speed pyroclasm isn't too bad in most match ups I go in.
gnarlicide says... #1
Also, try to get the full four Blackcleave Cliffs. They are amazing for turn 1. You will thank me later. Lol.
July 26, 2015 11:38 a.m.