Surely. I haven't played much modern yet, so advice is welcome. I have a pretty good loam pox deck, but I want a deck I can play without making my friends hate me forever, Win or lose.

Just letting you know Tarmogoyfs price will go down a ton when he gets reprinted in modern masters 2015 so make sure to keep an eye out on him

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psh. don't make me laugh. 'Goyf's price is never going to drop.

It is when it comes out in modern masters 2015 this may

Lol. Not when he's printed at mythic it won't.

1. It's still mythic.

2. It's still the most sought-after card in Magic history, with maybe the possible exception of Damnation.

3. It's not going to go down because MM2, while having a bigger run than MM1, isn't going to have "20 boxes to every Walmart" printing, which is the only thing that will ever drop Tarmogoyf down below triple digits. (Even then, it's iffy because demand won't go down; supply will just go up. In fact, demand will probably increase because it'll be more easily accessible then.)

Also worth pointing out that many stores are getting fewer boxes of mm2 than they did mm1.

True that. Most boxes are going to SCG and Pro Tour events.

Id also like to point out Tarmogoyf will at the lowest ever even if this drops his price will be around the current bob price of 110 at least. I don't see him dropping in price any lower and even then to go to 110 is very wishful thinking when you consider how often he is played. This a creature that is used in legacy aggro. He is simply in too much demand to ever truly go down in price that every player could afford. Wotc is in the business to make money and goyf does that. They want expensive cards for modern but to more or less cap at around 150 a peice Max if they can help it.

well Jamesfurrow technically you're right. demand for cards in a set will drive sealed product prices, however the secondary market has nothing to do with Wizards or their grasp of influence. the secondary market is entirely driven by players.

That is true but wizards can always reprint more to help fix that demand, eventually they could have him printed enough so that he's worthless at 4 dollars because he's so easily accessible if THEY so desired to print that many. Now they don't do that because it allows the sealed boxes that have POTENTIAL to open him be raised in value for the hopes of opening him (Hence 400 dollars a mm1 box). So by paying attention to our demand they can try to print enough to reach the mean that will drive a card to their desired price tag

What is your thought on Olivia Voldaren, either MB or SB? I am thinking of running just one, in the MB, because it steals threats, and kills weenies. Either way, fun for days.

malfeischylde I have 1 and I wasn't sure if she was worth running because she's more of a 6 drop than a 4 due to at least making her pass the bolt test I need 1. 6 mana and 2. Her to have a valid target to ping weather it's my own creature or one of theirs

Yeah Olivia Voldaren is really powerful but a bit slow if already running 2x Huntmaster and 2x Stormbreath. Lately I've been getting frustrated with her because of this. That's why I'm going for Huntmaster instead. :)

Btw thanks a lot Jamesfurrow on critiquing my Jund Midrange deck. Pack Rats are a great alternative to Goyfs. But are man Golden Fang is just better than Rats (and arguably than Goyfs themselves).

I might have to gradually cop your style as I get more funds to invest in my good ol' Jund Midrange. ;)

BigFace yea that's kinda why I'm not sure if she's worth it when I have them already lol. And yea Tasigur, the Golden Fang is really powerful but I wouldn't say better than goyfs just yet. He's a very solid replacement if ou can't afford him for sure but he is still legendary and his ability is still 4 mana. Also not a problem im glad I was able to help you out. If you need more help don't be shy to ask

What is your main use for bolt in this deck if it's for removal then I feel that with the current meta game it would be more useful to put in a straight up removal card such as Dreadbore in it's place however if you are using it for burn against your opponent it has it's relevance but it could maybe get dropped down to 3 copies. Also have you considered including Atarka's Command from dragons of tarkir in the deck as a versatile card which can offer burn, an extra land coming down from your hand, prevent life gain or buff your creatures.

OtakulordAndrew I run Lightning Bolt for 1. It's diversity on removal and burn. It hasn't let me down yet and it's still probaly red best spell. 2. Bolt is a card that still sets the standard in removal because of its not a rhino, or tasigur like creature bolt is still typically (im look at you Geist of Saint Traft) killing them. Also I can direct it at planeswalkers.

Also on Atarka's Command that card is very nice and I would be happy to get a few to try out and see how it does. Until I have my playset I'll be happily sitting on those bolts.

I hope that awnsers your questions

Thanks for answering my question. The deck looks nice the only other suggestion I can think to make is maybe 1 more Scavenging Ooze copy and possibly the inclusion of Fulminator Mage for the sideboard in place of Feed the Clan unless the life gain is really useful in your meta.

OtakulordAndrew the reason I don't use mage is because land screwing isn't something I need when I can awnser all other threats more or less. And the feeds save me from burn I mean burn is everywhere lately

Atarka's Command I'm not buying into the hype about it. It's good but ultimately I feel it's so-so. Great replacement for aggro that have Skullcrack in their SB. Could be main boarded. I don't see it Jund tho. Nothing can replace a bolt.

I did feel maybe another Ooze would be good. Why is there "only" 2x? I see the competitive decks usually run 3-4. I'm sure you got a good reason. You have really thought out every angle.

BigFace the reason I only run 2 is because I run 3 Courser of Kruphix I felt courser had more impact with its anti aggro body, and how it lets me move the lands gaining me life. Ooze requires mana to be dumped into it and a graveyard to have creatures. Courser only needs a land to etb under my control and let's me potentially move my deck. Both are good I just prefered 3 courser over 3 ooze

I see. I was also thinking Oozes pump up ability to turn into a beast later. But then I saw again you already have some meat in this deck with Golden Fang and Stormbreath.

I'm finally thinking about taking one of my semi-budget decks and building up to tournament status. I believe Jund is my best bet.

If I were to do exactly what you have now I'd need an $60 in loot to make it happen. Not in the Magic budget real quick.

In any case, in the meanwhile I wanted to get a better feel on how your deck has been performing in the tourneys. Last I heard you went a great 3-1. Haven't played in a Modern tourney. I'm so green I don't even know what Boggles is, played Twin once, and wonder what to sideboard against Tron, ect ect.

BigFace ok sideboardkng is probally the most important thing in competive play. Boggles is the nick name for gw hexproof. They run nothing but 1 drops with hexproof and one of the cards is named Slippery Boggle! hence boggles. The deck is mainly buffing those guys with enchantments and then swinging hard.

Sideboard is all your enchantment hate, and hand disruptions since Terminate and Dismember lose all value in that match up their the best canidates for swap.

Tron match ups are just tough as it is. Sideboard in artifact/enchantment hate, Maelstrom Pulse, and hand disruption, Abrupt Decay and Lightning Bolt lose a lot of value on these match ups so they will be the ones to take out.

Splinter twin decks are not a tough match up for us since they can't stop Abrupt Decay. You don't bring in too much agaisnt them and only really need Rakdos Charm and maybe Pithing Needle to shut down Kiki or the card twin itself.

Also notice how it's only your removal that's switching around. Your creature base as it is shouldn't need to be touched

I hope those helps you out with sideboarding and how this deck runs

If you need good red/green artifact/enchantment hate, I personally like Hull Breach since it destroys not only both artifacts and enchantments, the same way Naturalize does, but it destroys one of each. So, if you're running against somebody with both an important artifact AND an important enchantment, well, they gone! I do see the merits of Abrupt Decay except (at least if I'm thinking correctly there's not too many times that you really need an artifact or enchantment gone, to the point of sideboarding out Terminate and it's 3 or less mana. (But, I don't play against tron, so I really can't say much for that)

CPD the Abrupt Decays simply have the uncounterable side of them, and hit more than creatures. They kill Blood Moon lili, AEther Vial,ext. they hit more than a terminate in the broad sence. But my explaination was for tron match ups they don't do anything because tron plays more 5-8 drops where decay means nothing and becomes a dead draw in that match up very quickly.