Thanks for the input Epicbatman, I tested and really do like Reaper of the Wilds . I am thinking of some sort of a 2-2 or 2-3 split, because Desecration Demon is, after all, a 6/6 for 4.
February 27, 2014 5:27 p.m.
Epicbatman says... #4
Seems good, everyone has their own style, stick with your man.
February 27, 2014 7:45 p.m.
chillistills says... #5
Nice deck, I'd consider swapping 2 underworld connections for Courser of Kruphix . With all those connections and not many early creatures, the life loss could make you soft to aggro. Courser adds life gain to offset the many ways jund seems to hurt itself, and a big body to block with and stabilise vs aggro. It's also synergistic with reaper's scry and underworld connections.
March 2, 2014 10:20 a.m.
I have thought about Courser of Kruphix but I was trying to keep the deck consistent and simple and since the deck runs so many 2 and 3 of cards and not enough 4's I was worried about losing consistency. I am going to throw a few in and test it on MOTO and see how it does. You are absolutely right; the card synergies so well with Underworld Connections and scry and Chandra, Pyromaster , which not too many decks play her.
March 2, 2014 11:57 a.m.
Hey, not sure how well Xenagos, The Reveler works with your deckstyle.. If he's just a planeswalker that resolves and needs an answer... Domri Rade might be better suited for your style deck.
Not only does Courser of Kruphix combo with Underworld Connections and Chandra, Pyromaster , but they all combo with Domri Rade for the ultimate top deck filter / card advantage engine.
+1 on the control aspect of Jund,
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March 3, 2014 8:56 a.m.
Mn3m0n1c, as much as I love Domri Rade and he may just be the most powerful planeswalker in standard right now, I really can't justify him in this deck.
Here is why:
First of all, Xenagos, The Reveler is not in the deck for card advantage, he is there for ramp and a 2/2 every turn after a board wipe or just a body to chump block with. We have other cards and combinations for that. Having a few creatures on the board and using his +1 is huge to get me that extra mana to get into a big creature like Stormbreath Dragon , or enough to play a creature and have mana open for a kill spell. Xenagos, The Reveler and Sylvan Caryatid both are are huge to get a Stormbreath Dragon monstrous earlier than turn 7 to maximize the chance of having more cards in hand. (Though, ideally, I want to be doing this on their turn not mine, it is not always possible or necessary)
Second, I only play 15(ish) creatures in this deck, not like the common R/G 25+, so the likelihood that Domri Rade pulls a creature drops from 42% to 25%(roughly). As amazing as his token ultimate is with a R/G army dominating the board, this deck is built to often only resolve 1 or 2 threats at a time while controlling the board and force my opponent to deal with it and then play another threat. Remember, this is not a R/G splashing black for a few key cards, this is R/G/B all the way.
I appreciate the feedback but I think Domri Rade will have to be happy dominating other R/G combination decks.
March 3, 2014 3:57 p.m.
Also Xenagos, The Reveler has great synergy with Rakdos's Return . Being able to dump a players whole hand on turn 5 is a great way to win ANY game. Lets not even talk about if I can Slaughter Games them on turn 4.
P.S. I know the draw percentages are probably closer to 47% and 28%...I hate math. ;)
March 3, 2014 4:08 p.m.
Fair enough, your creature base makes your lack of Domri Rade understandable.I may also follow suit with Xenagos, The Reveler for the ramp into Rakdos's Return or monster Stormbreath Dragon . However, with my Elvish Mystic and Sylvan Caryatid s in my deck, I can potentially Stormbreath Dragon on turn 3, and it actually happened twice on game day lol.
Also, I found Slaughter Games to be quite a bit lackluster.. I had it on my sideboard until I used it against a UW control. I named Sphinx's Revelation thinking, yeaaaaa. he has no chance !! Turns out he still had an answer for everything I had, wound up making it an empty board. at the end of the game (lost to Elspeth, Sun's Champion ), he still had Fated Retribution and 2x Celestial Flare in hand after resolving an Angel of Serenity .
I stopped one major source of card draw and life gain, but he could still cycle Azorius Charm , cast Quicken , Jace, Architect of Thought -2, and Divination . With scry lands helping out his draws, and simple removal such as Detention Sphere , Elspeth, Sun's Champion -3 and a Supreme Verdict .. he had me completely locked out.
I very hastily removed it from my sideboard to never see play again :)
March 3, 2014 4:37 p.m.
You need to give Slaughter Games another chance. As someone who plays U/W control (this is a possible second-deck), that card is super scary! Most U/W control decks don't play Quicken anymore and yes, they are going to draw cards-that is what the deck is built around. Remember, Elixir of Immortality is a win condition but not much of one without Sphinx's Revelation so you are removing two win conditions.
Without Sphinx's Revelation to guarantee card draw they are going to have to get lucky drawing exactly what they need when they need it. Also the life gain can often put their life total out of range of what is realistically obtainable for you as far as damage--especially if they are holding their Supreme Verdict for big creatures, which they should. This is often where Scavenging Ooze shines and Xenagos, The Reveler can really help him shine by making him huge real quick.
Epicbatman says... #1
Try Reaper of the Wilds . Its better against more decks than Desecration Demon . I know the demon is big right now, just trust me on this, the only matchup where its better is mono-blue devotion. Check out my deck, Anger of the Jund (Standard). Looking good though, +1 for keeping jund strong and tier 1.
February 23, 2014 6:19 p.m.